What are the police doing to end the crime on Bonaire? - thread split

[pilot fish]

Again, I can't say this more clearly than I already have, you don't hear this level of crime against rental vehicles and condo break-ins on any other island in the Caribe?

 

[ScubaSteve]

Your ignorance is truly beyond that which most human being can achieve in a lifetime. There have been hundreds of posts spread over dozens of threads about what the police have done, are doing and could be doing to help the situation which you feel is so dire. Again, open your brain up and people might play nice.

 

[pilot fish]

Again, SS, these are not serious replies: leave everything opened and unlocked, use common sense because if you don't it's your fault if you get robbed, blame the victim, take second hand gear and old clothes, that you don't mind losiing, with you, same thing happens in your own home town,[ ah, no it does not, no diving here ], and of course, going to the bathroom in doughnut boxes as a deterent.

For some reason you seem incapable of crafting a cogent response on how to prevent the crime problem on Bonaire. Is it that you just don't know, that's my guess, and all YOU can think of are the silly notions listed above? :shocked2:

Your ignorance is truly beyond that which most human being can achieve in a lifetime. There have been hundreds of posts spread over dozens of threads about what the police have done, are doing and could be doing to help the situation which you feel is so dire. Again, open your brain up and people might play nice.

 

[pilot fish]

Scuba Steve, the choice is yours, either feed the flies, or join those of us that want to make Bonaire safe from crime. There just aren't enough doughnuts boxes to fill, or enough.............., oh, never mnd, you get the picture.

 

[Tim.]

... join those of us that want to make Bonaire safe from crime...

Personally I would rather you leave it well alone. Some might want to holiday in a police state but I don't.

Oh and thanks for trying to spreading bad words about Bonaire. More room for those of us that know and enjoy it.

 

[Adaveke]

Again, SS, these are not serious replies: leave everything opened and unlocked, use common sense because if you don't it's your fault if you get robbed, blame the victim, take second hand gear and old clothes, that you don't mind losiing, with you, same thing happens in your own home town,[ ah, no it does not, no diving here ], and of course, going to the bathroom in doughnut boxes as a deterent.

For some reason you seem incapable of crafting a cogent response on how to prevent the crime problem on Bonaire. Is it that you just don't know, that's my guess, and all YOU can think of are the silly notions listed above? :shocked2:

Perhaps you should go back a few pages and look at what Liz had to say about what the police are doing.
There seems to be progress.

moss, that really makes my point: at least in Hawaii you are amply warned, in travel books, posted signs, message boards etc. You don't see a concerted effort by a small, fanatical group trying to persuade people to ignore the problem and still others trying to convince people there is nothing to worry about, as you do on Bonaire. The truth protects people.

Maybe you should read some actual travel guides to Bonaire...
The Lonely Planet diving and snorkelling Bonaire guide mentions the crime.
The Dominicus Guide also mentions the crime associated with shore diving.
I've read some posts on this forum in which people indicate that they have been a victim.
So I would say people are warned that there might be a problem.

Something else you wont see about Hawaii is somebody who exaggerates the problem and then gets in a bad mood because people get sick of his rampant exaggerations.

I'll repeat it again: yes, there is crime. Yes there is a lot of opportunity for crime since you are abandoning your vehicle for hours in a desolate place. We know, we have been warned.
According to Liz the police is trying to do something about it. Let's hope it works. In the mean time be watchful and protect yourself.
How hard can it be?

 

[BHB ScubaTroll]

And that is why they need to make it safer. hello? If that is what draws divers there, what Bonaire has to offer that makes it different, don't you think they should at least make it safer and protect you from crime?

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/5020113-post53.html

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/5019893-post45.html

Because the question is from you, and you until its offspring's offspring can no longer move.

No answer is/will be good enough for you. You will continue to beat that ... Just go make glue out of the horse already!

 

[ScubaSteve]

Something else you wont see about Hawaii is somebody who exaggerates the problem and then gets in a bad mood because people get sick of his rampant exaggerations.

That is of course unless PiFi changes his bashing attention to Hawaii from Bonaire. He really is an equal opportunity basher. He does not need to know anything about the place to fanatically bash it. So, Hawaii might just be next.

 

[pilot fish]

Adaveke, cool tech, what the police SAY they are doing and what is ACTUALLY being done, are two different matters entirely. There has been no resulting crime reduction to prove ANYTHING is being done. That would be the proof.

 

[Mossman]

In Cozumel I am pretty sure you need a DM to dive the park???? Also in Belize you are supposed to have a DM on every dive! Roatan no problem shore diving done hundreds, but would not park a truck in an isolated spot and dive out of it leaving anything in it or locked! West end, a resort, or parking lot, maybe but would still take my stuff with me! GC is cool with SD and I have parked many places without worry! (Not a Third World Island) The DM rule is in more places than you would think, but is not always enforced! My point was Bonaire is a different way of diving, not so boat oriented, and with all the people diving remote locations many don't think and offer up an opportunity some can't pass up!

I've never had a problem renting tanks for a shore night dive in Cozumel, just my buddy and I. I did a solo shore dive in Chaankanaab, again without any problems renting a tank for me alone. There was never any suggestion that I'd need a DM.

I have friends that dive off their own boat off Ambergris Caye - they certainly don't hire a DM when they go out. Off the Nekton Pilot at the atolls, all the divers do their own thing (only rule is no solo).

If there's any islands that would impose a DM, it would be the Caymans with their extensive regulations on recreational diving.

However, when I did my shore dives in Cozumel, I was on foot, or my car was stashed in a guarded parking lot at a beach filled with hundreds of people. In Grand Cayman, typical shore dives are in front of a dive shop (where you can leave your car) at Eden Rock, Turtle Farm, Cobalt Coast, etc.

In Bonaire, on the other hand, you might drive down a one-lane road to a beach off the road where it's possible you won't see another soul the entire time, especially in the off season. When J broke her ankle at Old Blue, we were the only ones at the site - it's very nice when you want the solitude, but also nice for thieves who can take their time rifling through your truck while you're at 80', and it really sucks when you have an emergency! (Fortunately, after about 15 minutes of figuring out I was going to get J up the hill and into the truck when she was already in agony, a couple other divers showed up and gave me a hand so we could lift her gently rather than drag her screaming).