Using a Glock to discourage sharks?

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We had a guy in our open water course ask our instructor why he shouldn't use a dive knife as a weapon vs a shark. The instructor just looked at him for a moment, decided that he probably should answer the kid, and simply said, "6 inch piece of metal on a slow combersome body outside of it's environment vs a well equipped killing machine evolved for ruthless efficiency over millions of years as a predator. Who do you think would win?"

Ok, so it wasn't quite that elaborate, but that was the gist of it. It gave everyone a good laugh. Then he reminded us that PADI insists that we always dive with a dive buddy, and he recommended diving with someone who swims slower than you do.

Back on topic; that stuff about the glock is pretty cool. I never figured a company would look into firing their guns under water since there were so many things that could go wrong. Kind of like when someone in one of my college classes didn't think you could fire a gun on the moon since there wasn't any air. But you totally can! (it's in the cartridge) lol. However, there are a lot more factors to consider besides that.

K ellis: The concussion wave shouldn't be an issue, as it would exit the barrel away from the diver. Depth charges created concussion waves in every direction. This is why Glock recommends not firing the gun near solid objects, as they can reflect the concussion wave back at you. Ouch.
Off topic again, would you be interested in going diving sometime? I live in Fayetteville, and I read in one of your other posts that you enjoy diving with newbies.

Edit: CamG, I would never shoot anyone prior to diving. How morbid! I seriously judge you.

Now after diving, it's fair game. Shooting them isn't going to ruin a perfectly good dive that's already happened. XD. Really though, glad to hear you made it out okay.

My boyfriend says it's complete and utter bo11ocks. He HAS actually fired a Glock 19 underwater before. A G19 is the same as a G17 with a 1/2 inch shorter barrel. And no, there isn't a significant difference in muzzle velocity.

He said after about 1.5 metres (1.5 yards) bullets (FMJ armour piercing Swedish military spec ammunition 9 x 19) bounced off a cardboard target.

The only positive thing was that the Glock fired beautifully underwater.

The negative thing though... It hurt his elbows and knees... (The shockwave... no solid objects except for the cardboard target nearby.)

And don't attempt it without ear protection. If it can hurt your knees and elbows, it'll kill your ears.
 
Wow, must have some man killers in Missouri. I suggest you learn about sealife and particularly sharks and their importance to the food chain and reefs.
 
This thread started serious and has descended into all of the following:
Hysteria
Hysterically funny
Funny
Funny but sad
Sad but true
True lies
This escalation will of course lead to "sharks with frikkin' lasers on their heads".
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Chug
Likes it.
 
I bet PADI will be the first to come out with an "Underwater Concealed Carry " specialty


As a police officer for over 25 years, an NRA Police Firearms Instructor, a POST Firearms Instuctor, and a PADI IDC Staff Instructor I think that I am more than qualified to submit an academic outline to PADI for the Underwater Concealed Carry and Deep Water Predator specialty.

The course would require three days of training and a minimum of 1,000 rounds.
CQB, (close quarters battle) takes a lot of practice both above and below the water. This would take care of the deep water versions, the land sharks, and the flying Asian carp.

And just for the record I have carried a Glock 21 for more than 20 years and a gov't model 1911 before that. I also remember watching Mike Nelson firing that S&W revolver underwater on the Sea Hunt show when I was a kid.
 
3 days and 1000 rounds? Thats MY kind of class!
 
Wow, must have some man killers in Missouri. I suggest you learn about sealife and particularly sharks and their importance to the food chain and reefs.


Everything I need to know about the food chain I learned here
 
As a police officer for over 25 years, an NRA Police Firearms Instructor, a POST Firearms Instuctor, and a PADI IDC Staff Instructor I think that I am more than qualified to submit an academic outline to PADI for the Underwater Concealed Carry and Deep Water Predator specialty.

The course would require three days of training and a minimum of 1,000 rounds.
CQB, (close quarters battle) takes a lot of practice both above and below the water. This would take care of the deep water versions, the land sharks, and the flying Asian carp.

And just for the record I have carried a Glock 21 for more than 20 years and a gov't model 1911 before that. I also remember watching Mike Nelson firing that S&W revolver underwater on the Sea Hunt show when I was a kid.

What about a specialty on Maritime Weapons Specialist where one can learn to use both the Soviet and the HK dart guns?
 
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