The New Atomic TFX

[rsingler]

That's my single concern with this reg. It's not clear to me just how stiff the front cover is, and there appears to be no skeleton beneath it. Therefore, how much pressure is needed before the inside of the cover touches the nipple of the linkage that mates the diaphragm to the exhaust valve?

We won't know until we try it out.

 

[Geo7]

My T1X and Ti2 covers are thin and won't bend, but you are right, the thicker parts around the cutouts add some rigidity. I am sure Dean Garraffa and Doug Toth thought this through though.

I look forward to your tests!

 

[drrich2]

My work deals with sound systems for top cars (Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes, etc.).
When you design a new top-range sound system for such luxury cars, the starting point is the price. A good rule is to see what the competitor's price is. Let say Bose has their top range sound system marketed for 5000 euros. The new system you design must cost MORE. It cannot sound better, if it costs less...
And then the design and the research is focused on how to justify that your sound system costs 6000 eur instead of 5000.
So year after year the prices go up...
No one is thinking that these prices are a scam.
So I do not see why here people think that this reg is overpriced.

Appreciate you explaining this line on reasoning, as it's very different from how I imagined product development working, but I'm more of a mid.-range value shopper rather than a top tier premium product collector.

The mindset I imagined often drives mid.-range product development is a desire to produce a comparable product at a lower price than competitors, or a better product at the same or marginally higher price, etc... In other words, at least at the brainstorming stage, decide what kind and quality of product you want to produce, then see how cheaply you can do that and what profit you can get.

In other words, maybe a product at a cheaper can 'sound better' (using your analogy), and we admire people who find ways to do that.

To further use your analogy, the line of reasoning you described for developing a product for 'top cars' might not be the same as Toyota uses for devising one for a Corolla?

Judging from what I perceive as SB recreational dive culture, I think the mindset tends to favor more of a mid.-range than prestige/premium elite sensibility.

AA seems to be aiming for a prestige/premium elite market with some of their line. If so, I hope people will see this for what it is. People shopping for Corollas or Camrys shouldn't think they need a Mercedes, but it's fine that Mercedes exist.

Maybe the next time someone asks what regulator to get, we should start by asking what he drives!

 

[Geo7]

Nowhere - it does not appear to be available as a separate item yet.

The good news is that Atomic traditionally offered 1st and 2nd stages separately for all their models. So I hope it's a matter of time. It seems a T3 second costs 33% of what the entire T3 combo costs.

 

[scrane]

I'm just speculating, but I'll guess that like the D420, the frontal configuration of the reg on a scooter puts the purge control at a very steep angle, more parallel to the water flow. Thus, unlike a standard barrel reg, there's very little surface purge "button" area presenting itself to get depressed.
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But if I'm wrong, there is no way to stiffen the cracking effort during the dive. Changing the Venturi will not turn off a freeflow, if it's physical pressure of water while scootering that's activating the valve

Flow parallel to the cover might even cause less pressure (think airfoil).

 

[Belzelbub]

Let's wait until we assess exhalation effort before we go crazy.

When you do complete your assessment. Don't immediately post a full write-up. If you think it lives up to the hype, just update your avatar. The observant will catch it.

 

[scrane]

Anybody have one?
Anyone receive shipping verification?
Anyone receive order (not backorder) confirmation?

 

[Angelo Farina]

@Angelo Farina is probably still driving stick shift car too

Well, actually no. I have an US-made 2006 Jeep Cherokee, diesel 2.2 liters, with automatic shift and optional low range.
Bought used, of course!
But till past year I owned a 2005 Fiat Panda 4x4 2nd series, diesel, 1300cc, with manual shift.

 

[rsingler]

When you do complete your assessment. Don't immediately post a full write-up. If you think it lives up to the hype, just update your avatar. The observant will catch it.

That way you'll be able to order yours before they're out of stock.

 

[Bigbella]

@Angelo Farina is probably still driving stick shift car too

Ain't nothing wrong with a five-speed . . .