the DIR moniker

[ScubaFeenD]

Why does there need to be a separate name? Isn't that what created all the tension in the first place?

How about "diver"?

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Thats like saying, we should refer to all the shades in the rainbow as "color." There must be a way to differentiate a focus like there must be a way to differentiate wavelength. Most people dont seem to take issue with the differentiation anyway, just the connotation of it.

Nevertheless, I wish differentiation wasn't needed.

 

[ScubaSam]

I like the system, but I feel like there should be a secret handshake to go along with it. Any ideas for that Sam?

I don't need a secret handshake, just watch them underwater and you'll know what is important to that diver.

We go by the agency itself, GUE or UTD diver around here. I prefer to not use the term DIR in mixed company, as that implies others are Doing It Wrong (and that just brings drama).

And don't forget - Gooey Diver

Peace,
Greg

Greg - I've never liked the term "Doing it Right" for that exact reason. I have dived with divers who have never taken GUE or UTD courses but have great buddy skills and demonstrate good trim and buoyancy in the water.

 

[DiverLaura]

DIR = Doing it Rite? maybe that would help....

I was talking to a kid from a local recreational shop yesterday, we got to talking about tech training, he said something about "those DIR divers, they are such pains in the ass" (when they come into the shop he works at), then when he asked what training agency i like, and i said GUE, and he said "who's that?" then he went to their web site and started reading their standards and came back to me a little later totally a fan of GUE... I might even get him into a primer, stranger things have happened

From outside world, things look a bit different (I talk to a lot of recreational divers). We've for the most part gotten rid of the DIR = GUE association, now we just need GUE recognition

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Thats like saying, we should refer to all the shades in the rainbow as "color." There must be a way to differentiate a focus like there must be a way to differentiate wavelength. Most people dont seem to take issue with the differentiation anyway, just the connotation of it.

Nevertheless, I wish differentiation wasn't needed.

Colors are not people. People tend to want to associate in "clubs" of like-minded individuals ... and hence focus on what divides us.

That's human nature ... and I guess if folks need a name for their club they'll create one ... but the divisiveness it engenders runs counter to the whole point of a recreational activity ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[StreetDoctor]

Colors are not people. People tend to want to associate in "clubs" of like-minded individuals ... and hence focus on what divides us.

That's human nature ... and I guess if folks need a name for their club they'll create one ... but the divisiveness it engenders runs counter to the whole point of a recreational activity ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

That's a great idea... Maybe we could wear "colors" like a 1%'er gang... after-all we probably only make up 1% of scuba divers...

That settles it I'm getting a 1%'er patch on my drysuit. Remember you heard it here first!

 

[ScubaFeenD]

Colors are not people. People tend to want to associate in "clubs" of like-minded individuals ... and hence focus on what divides us.

That's human nature ... and I guess if folks need a name for their club they'll create one ... but the divisiveness it engenders runs counter to the whole point of a recreational activity ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

I agree its divisive, but that is not what i ever mean it to be. Instead, more categorical. Other philosophies of diving are fine by me, this one just happens to be the one I like the most, and I think many divers in the community feel the same way.

Unfortunately, in more than just diving, people creates categories and adjectives which then cause tension and schism.

 

[lamont]

Personally, I think that anyone who gets uptight about "DIR" is someone who is fixating on the wrong issue and I don't need to be diving with them. I personally have no interest in attempting to "solve" that "problem". Seems like a feature not a bug.

I think the bigger issue is the hazy definition of DIR and the dilution of what DIR means (e.g. I would say NAUI Tech is DIR-influenced, but not DIR, however I've got PMs from NTEC folks wanting access to the DPF who disagree with me).

 

[DiverLaura]

maybe as a 'culture' we are just outgrowing "DIR" as Doing It Right (or we need to). DIR is a descriptive in itself, despite, or in spite of itself.

just like the descriptive "i'm a tech diver" has gotten blurry...

does that mean you dive dubs? caves? deeper than 130? hyperoxic deco? deco period? have taken one intro to tech course?

 

[netmage]

maybe as a 'culture' we are just outgrowing "DIR" as Doing It Right (or we need to). DIR is a descriptive in itself, despite, or in spite of itself.

just like the descriptive "i'm a tech diver" has gotten blurry...

does that mean you dive dubs? caves? deeper than 130? hyperoxic deco? deco period? have taken one intro to tech course?

I'm fine w/ DIR...

Like it or not - eventually you will run into unsafe divers...
Including trained tech divers.

As Sam mentioned - It's pretty easy to see folks who are squared away and properly plan and execute dives w/o looking like a total CF...

 

[Superlyte27]

strokex ??

haha!