@boulderjohn
As I said I am not talking about cave diving to any degree!!!
Those sites are normal open sites!
They do not count as 'cave' since they are way too small (and unknown anyway), they do not count as 'cavern', since there is no light there.
I sometime accompany certified cave divers at those sites as well as diving alone or with sports divers.
That is quite normal and has nothing to do with 'illegal cavediving'.
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