Should new divers be exposed to controversial views?

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What's controversial, DIR-Hogarthian, Long hose-short hose, snorkel-no snorkel, jet fins-split fins, BC-wing, computer on air hose-computer on wrist, boat diver-shore diver, small redundant air supply-large redundant air supply. I don't see any of these as being controversial. Divers pick what works for them, they should try it all. Ford vs Chevy, it doesn't make any difference, just get out their and get that first 100 dives.

Internet "controversy" has nothing to do with getting wet. It's what people do when they are NOT diving.
 
To me, this states that you have a closed mind.

You have pre-judged the content based on tone.

In a manner of speaking ... speaking strictly for me it means I've decided that the value of whatever is being discussed isn't worth the BS I'd have to wade through to get it.

That's the point at which I decide to just move on to the next thread ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Internet "controversy" has nothing to do with getting wet. It's what people do when they are NOT diving.

... only until I can dowload wireless internet onto my X1 ... :D

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
In a manner of speaking ... speaking strictly for me it means I've decided that the value of whatever is being discussed isn't worth the BS I'd have to wade through to get it.
I agree.

But whats funny is that everything being discussed is subjective. It is easy to post "Geee...noone should post controversial posts for newbies", but when you get to the details the issues that derail threads people complain about are the same details that would make the original suggestion unworkable.
 
It usually isn't the subject that's controversial ... it's the personalities of the divers who are talking about it. I can't think of very much we talk about on ScubaBoard that would be controversial if the people having the discussion would simply behave on the Internet in the same manner they do with a face-to-face conversation.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
I did wade through all 45 posts. It seems the opinion of the boulderjohn that experienced divers should not post their unsolicited opinions in the New Divers forum. Perhaps the title of the thread is incorrect.

However, if we waited for the question to be asked before giving our opinion on it, perhaps some very valuable information and/or opinions would not get to the new divers.

What I mean is that we often read that "I didn't know what I didn't know". Perhaps (actually, probably) new divers don't even know the questions to ask in the first place.

Lynn has posted what I perceive as great advice in the New Diver's forum. What was contained in some of those threads was meant for new divers in particular.

So to limit the discussions in the new divers forum to answering only asked questions would be a disservice to new divers, I think.
 
Is this even a question? Should we expose X to Y? New divers are hardly stuck in the "New Divers Forum", This simply boggles the mind.... in so many ways! :rofl3:
FWIW, here is the original post and topic:

Should new divers be exposed to controversial views?
Should new divers be exposed to controversial views? Can each point of view be expressed without the cynicism and angst? I believe so. There are important issues and valid point made that get buried deep is good threads, like the one below.

From this post: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/4312255-post218.html
There is not a single word, anywhere in there about the where and when of "exposure" - nothing about forums in general, or the new diver forum in particular. The way it reads, it is asking about new divers and controversial views and whether one should be exposed to the other - and that's it.

I certainly didn't take anything from the OP concerning forums and what should or should not be posted where. Was I supposed to? OP? Help me out here.
 
First of all, I am an extreme advocate of the first admendment, that being said, it is sometimes disconcerting that because I am certified to teach by an agency, that everyone thinks they know how I teach and to what level....just because my agency does not dictate I MUST have a 100 hour course, I teach students to be unsafe. There are others who have a bitter taste in their mouths for the agency I am certified to teach for, and have found their niche in a new agency, so at every opportunity they inject their "better" idea into the conversation. What is normally ignored it the fact that, just because, and I'll use the term, many, instructional businesses under the same auspices, cut corners, does not mean that we all do. I believe, and until someone with more experience and authority, tells me so, I teach a well rounded course with emphasis on safety and knowledge for my students, within and exceeding the minimum guidelines of my agency. What it takes is deciding you, the instructor, doesn't mind spending the time to teach....teach, not just certify, the students. Too many broad brushes and self illuminating is the main problem with these discussions. I will not attack another agencies course, and I do get tired of hearing my chosen agency degraded pretty much on a daily basis, if not by name, often just insinuation by people I do admire, trying to push their thoughts on an unknowing readership.
 
First of all, I am an extreme advocate of the first admendment, that being said, it is sometimes disconcerting that because I am certified to teach by an agency, that everyone thinks they know how I teach and to what level....

OK, what does this have to do with the OP's original post??? He said new divers, not uncertified students...
 

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