JeffG
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I imagine that would reduce the amount of lead on your weight belt, eh? ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
Leaves an embarrassing stain when they rust though.
Richie Kohler accused of looting
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Leaves an embarrassing stain when they rust though.
Originally Posted by JeffG
"You need balls of steel to be a tech diver"
I imagine that would reduce the amount of lead on your weight belt, eh? ...
... Bob (Grateful Diver)
I switched to balls of aluminum. Makes my "rig" a lot lighter for travelling, etc.
True enough. Ever seen the "basement" at any state archives??? I haven't seen 'em all, but if Alabama's is any indicator, they're filled to the gunnels with stuff that the public will never see, and that the "pros" end up burying under layers upon layers of more stuff they've found (or confiscated) and will never get around to examining.
But at least it's all safe from the prying eyes of the unwashed masses.
Rick
cdiver2
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The answer is donate to a small museum in a small town as near as possible to the wreck site.
There is a Great Lakes maritime museum in Sandusky Ohio Small town small museum but I enjoyed the tour.
Zieg
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This is kinda the point I was trying to make. I guess I also want to say that none of this stuff should go to any basement.
As a side note, I had two old brass bathythermographs, used to obtain a temperature profile of the water column, to locate the thermocline. Donated one to the Museum of Man in the Sea, here in Panama City. Hope it's not in their basement.
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I'm not a lawyer but a played an ass 0 on TV. So lets talk about legal issues.
I insure a house, I pay you money to insure my house. I do not agree to give you my house if there is a fire, only for you to pay me the value if it burns. Got it!
My ship is insured by YOU for a loss, it sinks, it is a loss you covered by my money paid to you.
You pay me $ based on the contract. End of contract! This is simple contract law. unless it is in the contact, an insurance company does not own squat, not do they want to, nor can they.
100 years from said contract I come along and dig down 50 foot on an area not owned by anyone. I find your grantfather's wifes aborted child and 1,000,000 in gold. Who ownes it, and who is legally responsible for what I found. In your world the insurance com. owns it. So who goes to jail for the killing of the child. It was not legal then. And who gets the money, the state!
I insure a house, I pay you money to insure my house. I do not agree to give you my house if there is a fire, only for you to pay me the value if it burns. Got it!
My ship is insured by YOU for a loss, it sinks, it is a loss you covered by my money paid to you.
You pay me $ based on the contract. End of contract! This is simple contract law. unless it is in the contact, an insurance company does not own squat, not do they want to, nor can they.
100 years from said contract I come along and dig down 50 foot on an area not owned by anyone. I find your grantfather's wifes aborted child and 1,000,000 in gold. Who ownes it, and who is legally responsible for what I found. In your world the insurance com. owns it. So who goes to jail for the killing of the child. It was not legal then. And who gets the money, the state!
cdiver2
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Most insurance Co get whats left in the event of paying out on a total loss. Ever totaled a car? They pay out and then get whatever the scrap value is, you can scrap it yourself, but they will deduct it from the total value.
An area not owned by anyone! Pray tell me where this land is, I will build me a house on it
aue-mike
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This issue has been beat to death time and time again.
Museums are not the easy answer people think they are.
In any case, the following may provide some useful reading on this topic:
Association of Underwater Explorers - "Lost at Sea"
Cheers,
Mike
Museums are not the easy answer people think they are.
In any case, the following may provide some useful reading on this topic:
Association of Underwater Explorers - "Lost at Sea"
Cheers,
Mike
cdiver2
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For me there is no one simple answer.
Some historically significant wrecks need to be explored and artifacts recovered for history’s sake, investigations by authorities and/or experts to determine the cause of sinking. Many should be left for simple salvage and removing any contaminants.
There should be a few reserved for rec/tech divers to view and enjoy. Ships or airplanes, both civilian and military sunk in battle should be left as military graves with allowance for artifact removal to positively identify the vessel or craft.
Ships sank as artificial reefs should be stripped pretty clean before sinking but should be protected from any further molestation.
That leaves undiscovered wrecks with little or no historical significance. I can tell you that if I discovered some old world ship wreck laden with a cargo of gold and silver in Davey Jones’s locker, I’m going to claim it, recover the gold and silver and sell the remaining artifacts to the highest bidder.
There is no one rule that applies for all wrecks, each should be evaluated on its own merits.
Some historically significant wrecks need to be explored and artifacts recovered for history’s sake, investigations by authorities and/or experts to determine the cause of sinking. Many should be left for simple salvage and removing any contaminants.
There should be a few reserved for rec/tech divers to view and enjoy. Ships or airplanes, both civilian and military sunk in battle should be left as military graves with allowance for artifact removal to positively identify the vessel or craft.
Ships sank as artificial reefs should be stripped pretty clean before sinking but should be protected from any further molestation.
That leaves undiscovered wrecks with little or no historical significance. I can tell you that if I discovered some old world ship wreck laden with a cargo of gold and silver in Davey Jones’s locker, I’m going to claim it, recover the gold and silver and sell the remaining artifacts to the highest bidder.
There is no one rule that applies for all wrecks, each should be evaluated on its own merits.
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