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The arcane wisdom that is transferred from teacher to student through the water during the dive.

HTH

*pfffffffff*

The role of the instructor, when taken in its most basic form, is to shorten the learning curve. If you don't want that, then fine, but YOUR desire to learn things the hard way and your disdain of instructors does not mean that someone who chooses to employ one is being cheated. They are simply choosing to learn in a different way.

R..
 
*pfffffffff*

The role of the instructor, when taken in its most basic form, is to shorten the learning curve. If you don't want that, then fine, but YOUR desire to learn things the hard way and your disdain of instructors does not mean that someone who chooses to employ one is being cheated. They are simply choosing to learn in a different way.

R..
You misunderstand. My "cheated" comment referred to NOT having an instructor, even though he paid for one.
 
You misunderstand. My "cheated" comment referred to NOT having an instructor, even though he paid for one.

I just ran with it in another direction for fun.

On a serious note, comfort is about the only thing I can see one getting from it (and yes: you paid for it, you should get it). I'm a bit skeptical about instructor being able to see enough in the dark to provide meaningful feedback.

Of course if things go titsup not having someone experienced there could be all kinds of bad...
 
I've not seen it as a "requirement" by a dive op at a warm water, rec destination, but an op can do whatever they want. Their boat, their rules.

If you're booking in advance and they tell you in advance, all good. You can do as they say or vote with your feet. If they wait to tell you after you arrive...then not so good. :( :letsparty:
I agree with this. I may be missing something. By "requires it" I assume that means that you need the cert. to do a night boat dive with them. I would guess there are other dive ops doing (night) charters in Tenerife, but have no knowledge here.
 
Diving in the dark is different, particularly if viz is limited or if it's cloudy up top so there's not much light on the surface. Depending on the environment I can understand a dive op wanting prior experience. Just my 2 PSI.
 
You misunderstand. My "cheated" comment referred to NOT having an instructor, even though he paid for one.

Oh.... Well ... then....

There is a reason I haven't been on the board for 6 months and my inability to read for comprehension only highlights the point that 6 months may have been on the short side.... xD

R..
 
I have no problem with taking a night dive course or as others call it limited visibility diving. For locations that have to have a guide with the divers it is much more conducive to having the night divers ,,,,,,card carrying. The guides have at times their hands full with a group of a dozen divers when he can see them all let alone when he can not see them and can only count # of lights in the area and find them selves one light short. Of course I am in favor of having AOW cards to do 100 ft dives also..
 
Is it considered diving beyond your limits if you do a night dive without being certified? What does their insurance say? Its all good fun until someone gets hurt amd sues the boat. I have no issues wirh this.
 
The arcane wisdom that is transferred from teacher to student through the water during the dive.

When I was dive master working an AOW course I took two students out for their first night dive. It was a old motorboat with a mannequin. I let them go first just as we got to the boat. When their lights hit the mannequin they about bolted. No wisdom was transferred just a good laugh.

As for the OP, many divers get their first night dive as part of an AOW course. That usually suffices.
 
A dive shop requires me to have a night dive certification for night dives.

Is that pretty standard or are they just either covering themselves or using it for extra funds ?
Have you not done anything slightly deep in the Channel on a cloudy day? Or Guildy/Wraysbury late Sunday afternoon on a busy weekend?

I remember one particular comic day off Brighton where the main risk was banging your head on the reef - the bottom is flat but at either 12m or 17m mostly with a small wall. It appeared to me that fish thought it was night time and were having a sleep.
 

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