Pit bull coming at me, owner screaming "Vicious NO"

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hdtran:
So, I'll agree that the breed commonly known as 'pit bulls' is inherently more agressive than, say, the black labrador retriever. But it's the owner, stupid.
I've been bit by 2 dogs in my adult life... A Pit Bull & a Black Lab. I'll briefly describe both but I agree, in both instances the owner was at least partially at fault.

Black lab - Pulled up to a local coffee shop on my motorcycle, parked, got off the bike and as I turned around a Black Lab lunged at me and bit my knee. It was not on a leash and most likely bit me out of fear (of the motorcycle, and no, it's not a loud, obnoxious Harley). Who do i blame? The Owner... Idiot didn't have it on a leash. Was completely in denial over the whole episode until i showed her the blood. She changed her tune then...

Pit Bull - was out walking my girlfriends fluff ball Lilly, saw a pit bull without a leash, decided to turn around and go the other way, took about 5 steps and luckily i turned around 'cause the pit was coming fast. I yanked on Lilly's harness to pull her up to me as the pit lunged at her. I turned my body and it grabbed me on my upper arm (tricep) and hung there for a few seconds before slipping off. It then proceeded to bite at my knees and feet, I kicked at it and it ran off. It was a young dog so i got off lucky with only some nasty puncture wounds and a scar. After contacting the police I found that it attacked somebody earlier in the week.

Blame? Owner & dog. The owner for being a gang banging piece of shi+ and the dog for just being mean. I know it initially went after my dog but didn't stop there... I don't like Pit Bulls and NO ONE will convince me otherwise.
 
Northeastwrecks:
I'm glad to hear that you and your dogs are OK, Ber.

With regard to this question:

Step 1 - Move between dog and whatever/whomever I'm trying to protect.

Step 2 - Draw .40 caliber disciplinary tool (S&W 4006) whilst shouting "NO" and evaluating background.

Step 3 - If dog continues to advance and it is safe to do so, discharge enough rounds to neutralize threat.

Step 4 - Be thankful that I practice a few hours each week speed drawing on rapidly advancing targets.

Step 5 - Continue on about my business.

Step 6 - Send owners a bill for the rounds.

And how many people are going to be evaluating the background? Sorry... guns are not the answer.
 
Moodiejeff:
Pit Bull - was out walking my girlfriends fluff ball Lilly, saw a pit bull without a leash, decided to turn around and go the other way, took about 5 steps and luckily i turned around 'cause the pit was coming fast. I yanked on Lilly's harness to pull her up to me as the pit lunged at her. I turned my body and it grabbed me on my upper arm (tricep) and hung there for a few seconds before slipping off. It then proceeded to bite at my knees and feet, I kicked at it and it ran off. It was a young dog so i got off lucky with only some nasty punture wounds and a scar. After contacting the police I found that it attacked somebody earlier in the week.

not that I do not believe you this happened, but can you be 100% certain that it was a PB? Not some other, similar looking K9?
 
i only ever had one dog bite me, and it was a mutt

should i hate all dogs now?
 
Moodiejeff:
And how many people are going to be evaluating the background? Sorry... guns are not the answer.

I agree.

A few inches of ATS34 applied to the appropriate location would be effective and much quieter.
 
No, of course not.
An American Thoroughbred has a very different temperament from a Canadian Thoroughbred. I don't know if that is Google-able but a lot of trainers convinced me. I believe that in this period of time, in this country, the Pit Bull's genetic pool has been severely compromised due to the breeding practices by many who desire to have them. If you don't, thats fine. I am not out to change society or pass any more laws until we can enforce the ones we already have. I personally do not like these dogs and choose to stay away from them. Thats all. I don't think I need to "educate" myself about it because I spent enough time going into neighborhoods and seeing the situation with my own eyes. If you walk around on the West side tomorrow in certain areas, you will get your butt chewed up. It is really common sense in a lot of ways. They might be nanny dogs in England, but I live here.
These dogs are not particularly bright and they are very strong with big powerful jaws. Seabiscuit sized up the temperaments pretty well in her post. "lunks" "dominant" The people that want to go around with an intimidating dog like this are often a little odd also. People often choose really dumb breeds but usually the have other redeemable qualities.
 
H2Andy:
i only ever had one dog bite me, and it was a mutt

should i hate all dogs now?

NO! you should only hate mutts, they are all nasty dogs that should be banned :D

This is one of those subjects that is more of an urban legend and plays on the fears of the people involved and those surrounding them. If cats would be the attackers instead of dogs, they would be hated as well. This is also very similar to the whole BS that PETA is doing, toying with the emotions of humans based on incomplete facts and scarce data compiled with some clever imagery to lure in those that are not educated in the matters at hand.

The way I look at it is we humans are like sheep, will follow the loudest sheep bahing and will walk all over unless we have good sheppard dogs (pun intended) to guide us along and show us to the water.

PB's are very gentle creatures, yes there can be the odd one that is a bit more to handle, but that same issue is present with other dogs and humans as well - you don't see us "banning" them?
 
H2Andy:
i only ever had one dog bite me, and it was a mutt

should i hate all dogs now?

A moose once bit my sister ...oops! wrong quote!

I was once bitten by a farm mutt while I was peaceably riding my bicycle. Got the owner to pay for the doctor's visit, but didn't get the owner to grovel enough.

Thought briefly about coming back and making dog-pancakes, but thought better of it.
 
Tamas:
not that I do not believe you this happened, but can you be 100% certain that it was a PB? Not some other, similar looking K9?
100% positive, not a shred of doubt in my mind.

Owner was fined and needs to have the dog muzzled and leashed from now on... haven't seen the dog since and i can only hope that it was put down. While i know that most of the problem lies in the training of a dog, you said it yourself, they are wild animals. I have met plenty of "tame" pits but I don't trust 'em.

I want to add that I do NOT advocate dogs being put down but this obviously was an ill trained dog that attacked twice.

H2Andy:
i only ever had one dog bite me, and it was a mutt
should i hate all dogs now?
Did I say I hate all dogs? You're reading a bit too much into what I said.
 
Moodiejeff:
Did I say I hate all dogs? You're reading a bit too much into what I said.

i was using a logical extension of your statement.

you were bit by a pitbull. thus, you do not like pitbulls.

i was bitten by a dog. thus, i do not like dogs.

in both cases, the actions of one individual are being attributed to a larger
group which it represents.
 

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