Oxycheq v Diverite?

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I have both the Dive Rite Classic for doubles and the Oxycheq 45-pound wing for singles. They're both great for what they do, and I wouldn't have a problem with any of their wings of whatever size. Get what size you need now worry about the future later like I do.
Just to stir the pot a little, I got my wife a 30-pound Abyss wing, and it has a thick shell around the inner bladder. It takes a while to drain climbing up the ladder, but that inner bladder is nice and protected in there. I got a mysterious cut in my Oxycheq wing a while back - there were a bunch of Halcyon-equipped types on the same boat that day, and I KNOW they had a hair up their butts over my wing...
I can't prove it, but who else could it have been?
 
Differences between the DiveRite and the Oxycheq:

DiveRite Dual Rec and Oxycheq Dual Bladder wings looks really cool but the extra inflator hose on it is not totally necessary. Why you may ask because in the very rare event the your wing decides to blow up which rarely happens at all don't worry about it. Also having a dual bladder also now brings in another entanglement factor so if you plan on getting into technical diving with deep wrecks it's really unecesary.

In, response to is are the bp/w comfortable, dude or dudet its like a glove. The amount of freedom it allows you is great. For more information on a backplate and wing setup go here: http://www.gue.com/classroom/dirfund.shtml

Dive-aholic:
In the process of making the conversion from a back inflate to bp/w set up. After hours of SB searching and other online searches, I think I've narrowed it down to Oxycheq and Diverite. Okay, before anyone tells me to go to my LDS and see what they have - they don't. I live in AZ and I haven't come across any shops in the state that carry either of these. So I have to make this purchase online without the benefit of seeing it in person.

Anyway, here's my assessment:

1. dual bladder with about 50 lbs of lift, Oxycheq makes one and DR has the dual rec. I'm leaning towards Oxy because it looks like it will create less drag.

2. ~5# ss bp capable of being converted for use with a single tank, both have it, but I think I like the DR bp single tank converter better. I'm not sure if Oxy/DR are compatible. They weren't a couple of years ago according to one thread here on SB. I've read a lot of stuff about FredT here on the Board, but can't find info on it anywhere else.

3. simple harness system, not sure which way to go on this, might just do a DIY, but I will need to clip lights, etc.

Type of diving I do:

1. fresh water and sea water, drysuit half the time, 3mm the other half, depends on the time of year and the location.

2. getting into tech diving, specifically deep/wrecks c some penetration right now, planning on progressive penetrations in the future.

3. cave diving.

I'd like to check out these setups somewhere, but don't know when I'll come across an LDS that carries the stuff and would like to make the transition sooner rather than later.

So, without flaming anyone (if possible), I'd just like the pros and cons of these bp/w's and how they do underwater. If you have any suggestions other than these systems, I'm still open to them. Thanks.
 
willy wonka dives:
Why you may ask because in the very rare event the your wing decides to blow up which rarely happens at all don't worry about it. Also having a dual bladder also now brings in another entanglement factor so if you plan on getting into technical diving with deep wrecks it's really unecesary.
Uh oh, my wing just blew up... that was a one in ten thousand accident... oh well, on with the dive.

While I don't use a dual-bladder wing myself, I hardly think that there's an additional entanglement factor with them - simply keep the right hand inflator bungeed down to the right shoulder d-ring, just like the regular left inflator. Which few people really consider to be an entanglement point.

You might be surprised but in other parts of the world, many many divers do just fine with dual-bladder wings in both cave and wreck diving. Haven't heard of any recent secondary inflator entanglement deaths.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of these days Halcyon (I notice the store you work at sells that line) releases a dual bladder wing to cater for double-tank wetsuit divers (JJ does mention them in the DIR-F book after all as being acceptable for this purpose) - you won't be able to see for all the dust being raised by the back-peddling :D

(I made that up about Halcyon dual-bladder wings BTW)
 
willy wonka dives:
Differences between the DiveRite and the Oxycheq:
I'm confused, did you actually state any differences or merely post a useless, off-topic diatribe the likes of which can be found over and over again in previous posts from others also in lockstep? :D
 
mossym:
isn't one of the whole bp/wing benefits supposed to be about interchangability? why not mate a oxyxheq wing with a DR backplate, then you get the best of both worlds..or can that nor be done?

Yes, that's correct.

I own two Dive Rite plates. One has an Oxycheq wing mounted with it, the other has a Deep Sea Supply wing.

That said, Dive Rite isn't my first choice for plates ... although it's more a matter of personal preference than anything else.

If you compare plate shapes, you will find some differences in the angle of the plate bend, channel depth, and overall plate shape.

Some plates come in short, standard, and long sizes. I'll address the "standard" size plates for comparison.

The Dive Rite plate is about 3/4" longer in length than the Oxycheq and the corners are less rounded. For people with "hips", that means when you don the rig, you may notice the corners of the plate digging into you a bit. Not an issue once you're in the water, but it can wear into your exposure gear over time. For leaner people, or those with a proportionally long torso, this won't be a concern at all.

Plate bend angle and channel depth are similar between the two ... with the Oxycheq having a slightly shallower channel depth and the Dive Rite having a slightly shallower bend angle. These differences are so slight that from a practical standpoint the diver won't even notice them.

Neither plate would be my first choice ... mainly due to the fact that even factory-finished these two plates come with edges that will wear through a harness quicker than some others I've tried. Both FredT and DSS make higher-quality plates, as does Halcyon, although I don't own the latter and can't speak from more than observations of buddy's gear.

Dive-a-holic ... I PM'ed you my personal observations of DR vs Oxycheq wings. To clarify (since I hadn't read your posts till now) ... those are based on singles wings.

I notice you want a wing that will be suitable for both singles and doubles. I would advise against going that route because in order to make a wing that will accommodate both, the manufacturer has to make compromises against the performance of both. Singles wings and doubles wings are very different.

If you really have your heart set in that direction, then I'd recommend the DR Rec wing simply because it's an adequate performer for singles, and if you release (or remove) the bungee it will accommodate 7-1/4" diameter doubles without too much difficulty.

But for proper performance, I'd recommend a singles wing for singles, and a doubles wing for doubles.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
I agree with Bob about not getting a wing for singles and doubles. I originally bought a wing for doubles and singles, but then went and bought another one for singles. Now I'm debating buying another BP for singles so I dont have to keep changing the cam straps.
 
willy wonka dives:
Differences between the DiveRite and the Oxycheq:

DiveRite Dual Rec and Oxycheq Dual Bladder wings looks really cool but the extra inflator hose on it is not totally necessary. Why you may ask because in the very rare event the your wing decides to blow up which rarely happens at all don't worry about it. Also having a dual bladder also now brings in another entanglement factor so if you plan on getting into technical diving with deep wrecks it's really unecesary.

In, response to is are the bp/w comfortable, dude or dudet its like a glove. The amount of freedom it allows you is great. For more information on a backplate and wing setup go here: http://www.gue.com/classroom/dirfund.shtml

I'm thinking redundancy is never wrong. That rare event could happen when you least need it to. And as has been stated, a bungee takes care of entanglement.

Like Gator, I'm not reading about any differences in your post, just bashing the dual bladder.


As for the doubles v single thing, the plan is to eventually have 2 sets of wings, but unless anyone wants to volunteer to buy me one of those, it ain't gonna happen at the same time. So I want to get something that will work for both now and become my doubles set up later when I buy a wing for single tank diving.

BTW, I'm serious about buying me wings...I do take charity :D

Thanks for all the great advice both here in this thread and the PM's. It's been a lot of help.
 
Tom Winters:
I got a mysterious cut in my Oxycheq wing a while back - there were a bunch of Halcyon-equipped types on the same boat that day, and I KNOW they had a hair up their butts over my wing...
I can't prove it, but who else could it have been?

Those guys diving Halcyon gear are certainly suspects Tom but it's my opinion most holes in wings are caused by letting the wing get between a back plate and a hard place (usually in the trunk of a car or bed of a pick-up truck).
 
Don't forget about the paperclips too, Brian...

The mismanagement of office supplies will eventually be our greatest downfall...
 
deepstops:
Those guys diving Halcyon gear are certainly suspects Tom but it's my opinion most holes in wings are caused by letting the wing get between a back plate and a hard place (usually in the trunk of a car or bed of a pick-up truck).
Those guys? Ah yes, the theory of plausible deniability once again. Your neighbor George has trained you well Brian...he must be very proud... :browsmile
 

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