OW diver below 60 feet?

[ligersandtions]

80' is 20' deeper than 60'.

SAC rates go up, it takes more time and more air to get to the surface, and if the divers haven't learned how to do any gas planning more significant than "Be back with 500 PSI", an air-sharing ascent from 80' has a better chance of ending with two divers OOA instead of one.

Terry

While I agree with the idea of your post, I think one thing should be clarified....your SAC does not go up (unless you're getting nervous and breathing faster), but your air consumption at depth will go up.

I just wanted to clarify this in case a new diver reads this and is confused.

 

[Web Monkey]

Keep all the drama, 20' coming up underwater is nothing.

No drama. For a new diver 60' is simply safer than 80'.

Also, while I'm in a pot-stirring mood, if PADI pulled the certification of every DM that took brand new divers right past their recommended limit and said "don't worry", it would be harder to find a DM than get an audience with The Pope.

Terry

 

[Web Monkey]

While I agree with the idea of your post, I think one thing should be clarified....your SAC does not go up (unless you're getting nervous and breathing faster), but your air consumption at depth will go up.

I just wanted to clarify this in case a new diver reads this and is confused.

You got me on that one. The SAC is Surface Air Consumption and is normalized at the surface. The overall consumption goes up as depth increases, while the SAC doesn't.

Terry

 

[ScubaSteve]

This is so true. So you go ahead and

.......Also, while I'm in a pot-stirring mood, if PADI pulled the certification of every DM that took brand new divers right past their recommended limit and said "don't worry", it would be harder to find a DM than get an audience with The Pope.

Terry

 

[Ana]

No drama. For a new diver 60' is simply safer than 80'.

It would be even safer if all the new divers stay within 40'. It is 20' feet less than 60 so it is double-safe. No wait, keep them at 20' that is double-double-safe.

If new divers really want to be safer for real, they should just learn their stuff and stop relaying on deckhands that play DM in boats. Realize that most of then didn't learn jack in their 100$ course. Get the books that will properly explain to them what happens to their bodies while diving (at whatever level they require) and go diving. While diving pay attention to what they are doing and accept responsibilities for their actions.

As far as all the online zealots out there babying all the new divers, take a chill. Diving can kill you? yes. Living can kill you.

 

[Web Monkey]

It would be even safer if all the new divers stay within 40'. It is 20' feet less than 60 so it is double-safe. No wait, keep them at 20' that is double-double-safe.

It would be safer if they dived in the conditions they were trained in, and at similar depths.

Terry

 

[ScubaSteve]

It would be even safer if all the new divers stay within 40'. It is 20' feet less than 60 so it is double-safe. No wait, keep them at 20' that is double-double-safe........

Not even worthy of comment

It would be safer if they dived in the conditions they were trained in, and at similar depths.

Terry

As you can see from Ana's comments, logic has no place here. I do agree with you though.

 

[lowviz]

Please note: This forum has special rules. This forum is intended to be a very friendly, "flame free zone" where divers of any skill level may ask questions about basic scuba topics without fear of being accosted. Please show respect and courtesy at all times. Remember that the inquirer is looking for answers that they can understand.

The OP's post is in the proper forum. ANA's post is not. My opinion, of course.

 

[Walter]

Ana's post is very logical, did not flame anyone and points out the problems with the system in place in many areas.

 

[lowviz]

Ana's post is very logical, did not flame anyone and points out the problems with the system in place in many areas.

I actually agree with ANA, but the intensity can quite easily put of a newbie who may be in the "hanging-in-the-balance, is this really fun" part of their dive career. -For me, not worth pursuing any further.