Opening Of Indonesia pushed to end of 2020?

[tursiops]

There have been more than enough cases that -ve became +ve after few days or even longer!!!!!
NO test kit is 100% accurate and the virus has long incubation period inside the host.

That's not quite the point.
Even if the test were 100% accurate, it is only applicable to that moment in time when it was taken. You might have been exposed prior to that but the viral load has not yet developed (your "incubation time"), or you might get exposed after the test.

 

[Centrals]

That's not quite the point.
Even if the test were 100% accurate, it is only applicable to that moment in time when it was taken. You might have been exposed prior to that but the viral load has not yet developed (your "incubation time"), or you might get exposed after the test.

I knew that unfortunately plenty of us do not think along this way!
I could have myself tested a while back for FREE but once I realized it was NOT compulsory and there was NO whole scale lock down of the city. I thought why bother! It was absolutely a waste of tax payers money.
This "wuhan virus" is really evil with so many new tricks to fool us.

 

[Esprise Me]

A chilling case study for anyone who thinks a negative test result means they're safe to fly: A traveler tested negative for covid-19 before a flight. He had the virus and infected 4 passengers.

Health officials in New Zealand, a country that has a strict 14-day quarantine in place for arriving travelers, released a case study on Friday that details the risks of traveling on long-haul flights during the coronavirus pandemic — even if negative coronavirus tests are required before the flight.

The report details a coronavirus outbreak linked through DNA analysis to one passenger on an 18-hour flight from Dubai to New Zealand in September. The traveler, who tested negative for the coronavirus with a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test within 48 hours of the flight, was contagious but pre-symptomatic onboard the plane, and infected at least four other passengers.

 

[Dan]

A chilling case study for anyone who thinks a negative test result means they're safe to fly: A traveler tested negative for covid-19 before a flight. He had the virus and infected 4 passengers.

I have same concern for long flights. 18 hours in a plane is a long time. My trip next week (Houston to San Jose, CR) is only a 3-hour flight. I think I can sit & wear mask during the entire flight.

 

[Searcaigh]

I think I can sit & wear mask during the entire flight.

Use an N95 mask if you can Dan.

I used one for my flights to Saudi and Qatar last February and it wasn't too bad. I'll be wearing one for an eight hour flight in January, but 18 hours is another matter.

I would also suggest you take a packet of antiseptic wipes and clean the area around your seat.

 

[Indah]

August next year all should be fine again for traveling.

 

[Blackcrusader]

August next year all should be fine again for traveling.

Many countries like Indonesia do not really know how many Wuhan China virus cases they have and even if a vaccine is available how will they afford to give it to the populations they have?

 

[stepfen]

That's not quite the point.
Even if the test were 100% accurate, it is only applicable to that moment in time when it was taken. You might have been exposed prior to that but the viral load has not yet developed (your "incubation time"), or you might get exposed after the test.

Apart from the accuracy and the timing problem described above, people should also consider the validity of these tests especially in less developed countries. Yesterday a bus load (50 or so) of workers coming to Greece from abroad were fount to have fake PCR tests. After they were tested 5 (10%) of them were fount positive. A lot of people can't afford the 100$ or so for the test (especially if they need to move around frequently) and if they have to move, they will think of every alternative to do so.

 

[Dan]

I’ll just follow the COVID-19 protocols and forget about all those gloom & doom view of the world. In fact I found a new hobby to replace the missing diving trips (cancelled 6 dive trips so far this year), that is cycling. I got hooked on it and cycling for 20-30 miles everyday (50-80 miles on the weekends) in the last 9 months, lost 20 lbs and haven’t gotten the dang virus, yet. Knock on wood.

 

[David Novo]

I have same concern for long flights. 18 hours in a plane is a long time. My trip next week (Houston to San Jose, CR) is only a 3-hour flight. I think I can sit & wear mask during the entire flight.

3-5 hours in an N95/FPP2 mask is manageable. I wore one from the time I entered the airport in Lisbon until the plane landed in Faial (the Azores) this Summer (2h15 flight).

It was not pleasant but it was manageable. I would not be able to do it for a long-haul flight though.