On my last dive to 400 Ft...

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Oh no doubt they had tons of surface support. Diving like that is like mounting an expedition to the Himalayas. There's just no way you can do that solo. I was just saying that although I'm newly tech (adv nitrox / deco), I'm basically just lazy and don't have any desire to strap 6+ tanks on for a dive.

Set of doubles, maybe a 40 or 60 for deco...that's about it. Ultimate dives like that are nice to think about, but I think doing my helicopter turns correctly and learning to fin backwards is enough task loading for now.

;-)

D.

webediving:
D,
Just because you are Tec certified does not mean that your next dive is going to be 600fsw!. As a Tec Diver you should know you have to build yourself for that. I have done plenty of dives OC and CCR from 150 to 260 fsw and dind not have to carry that much stuff. 600 fsw is some serious business and that is why you have to cary all that stuff. Only you can think for yourself, only you can breath for yourself and only you can save yourself. BTW I am pretty shure they did not showed all the safety divers they also had for that dive! Do not let youself get scared. Yes it is complicated and yes you have to carry lost of stuff ( you life depends on it). Get proper trainig and you will be OK.

T
Dive silent Dive deep!
 
Daylonious:
Oh no doubt they had tons of surface support. Diving like that is like mounting an expedition to the Himalayas. There's just no way you can do that solo. ..

It kinda seems to me that no matter what kind of "surface support" you might have and no matter how many other divers there may be in the water, any dive to 600 feet would be, in reality, a solo dive.
 
I find it hard to believe that a certified instructor knowingly fails to give any student the necessary information to safely dive in their certified zone. I must admit that LDS's in my area are reluctant to discuss 'tech diving'. Locally, tech equipment is not available and any request for additional information is brushed aside.

This is mostly a perceived lack of market or a lack of tech training or instructional capacity on their part.

Having said the above, I must say that in my opinion, outside of an ego trip, diving deep isn't a great idea. Can you do it safely? Yes, but why, outside of a specialty profession such as geological study of under water caves structures, would you want to?
 
Well, for me it's wrecks. Most wrecks are below recreational scuba depths. Could be wrong but I heard something like 80 -90 percent of diveable ship wrecks are below 100 feet...

Ultimately I want to increase my tech skills, learn wreck penetration, and dive wrecks. I'll save the caves for Jarrod...

D.

serambin:
Having said the above, I must say that in my opinion, outside of an ego trip, diving deep isn't a great idea. Can you do it safely? Yes, but why, outside of a specialty profession such as geological study of under water caves structures, would you want to?
 
Where do you draw the line to define technical diving, anyway? I thought it was decompression or overhead environments, but my LDS has decided that because I'm diving a BP/W and a long hose, I'm now a technical diver. They're pretty disgusted about it. Who knew?
 
I'd say "technical" starts with planned deco dives and/or overhead environments.
 
To me, the most technical part of technical diving, is the logistics...

At least for me, the mixing and chartering of boats, are the greatest obstacles to a good techdive...
 
TSandM:
Where do you draw the line to define technical diving, anyway? I thought it was decompression or overhead environments, but my LDS has decided that because I'm diving a BP/W and a long hose, I'm now a technical diver. They're pretty disgusted about it. Who knew?
Oh dear,

that makes me a technical diver too. :D

AFAIK, a technical dive is is an overhead dive either real (cave, wreck, ice) or virtual (deco).
 
Ok, first off I am not a Tech Diver(Just a regular dive-aholic) I am just asking. Why dive that deep? When I have dove to 80 Ffw in Table Rock all I see is silt, Trees(very Tall ones) and darkness. Maybe it is because I am diving in a lake but most of the life is at 30 to 40 feet. Now if I could see some pictures of the supposed houses, picket fences and what not of a town being flooded. Maybe a peek might interest me. I dive in Florida in the summer time but stuck in the lakes most of the time.
 
serambin:
I must admit that LDS's in my area are reluctant to discuss 'tech diving'. Locally, tech equipment is not available and any request for additional information is brushed aside

This is mostly a perceived lack of market or a lack of tech training or instructional capacity on their part..

Most (not all of course) dive shops deal in recreational diving and don't have any background in anything else.
Having said the above, I must say that in my opinion, outside of an ego trip, diving deep isn't a great idea. Can you do it safely? Yes, but why, outside of a specialty profession such as geological study of under water caves structures, would you want to?

The why is simple. If the cave goes deep and you want to see it you have to go deep. In places like the Great Lakes many of the wrecks that are worth seeing are well below recreational depths. In the ocean, there's plenty to see all the way down but it's different stuff. There are as many reasons for divers diving deep as there are reasons for diving in the first place. Some divers want to pack up and go spend a week at a resort and some divers jump in their own car and drive to the Missouri caves which are sort of deep. It just all depends on what you want to see and do and what you enjoy.
 

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