Offshore drilling bill passes house - CONTACT YOUR SENATORS!

[lamont]

I would rather have drilling operations happening on our coast or ANWAR where we can watch and regualte and minimize the effects, than off in some primitive area of the world where no one is watching and even more wretched things happen that no one sees or cares about.

You seem to be assuming that the options are that it happens domestically or it happens in the third world. In reality its going to happen in the third world. The question is if its going to happen domestically or not.

And a lot of people claim that pumping domestically means that we don't give money to terrorists in the middle east, etc. You should actually do some research on the peak pumping capacity of ANWR or oil rigs in the gulf and figure out when they'll hit their peak and how significant it will be and compare it to the 84.9 Mbd the world is using now, or the the US share of that. The numbers I've read on ANWR are 1 Mbd something like 10 years in the future. That isn't going to be of any help. I expect that neither will drilling in the Gulf. American will never be self-sufficient in oil again unless we actually reduce demand by an order of magnitude (90%), we do not have oil fields that can produce at the rates necessary to sustain the rate at which we are consuming oil.

 

[TheRedHead]

Sexy looking cars? What like a car with an exact replica of me on the hood?

Trini, you slay me sometimes. :lol:

 

[usmc4x4]

No - I want them to FIX the damn problem! I want the american people to wake up and realize that we only have 1 earth - once its gone, its gone. Shifting the pollution to another area is not the answer. Fixing the problem is!

Our oil consumption is driven by the CONSUMER not the big 3 or big oil. What the CONSUMER demands is what will be made. Now that everyone wants hybrids and economical cars they are being made. If the CONSUMER doesn't support it, they won't make it.

I have 3 vehicles all get less than 18mpg and I will be damned if I am going to be told I can't drive them because some enviornazi is crying wolf over a study he read that is based on 1/20,000,000th of the earths history. Life is compromise, get on board. I want SUVs and hotrods so I make the choice to pay the premium.

 

[Trinigordo]

Trini, you slay me sometimes. :lol:

You think that is funny? Want to see me get attacked by 500 Americans?

 

[lamont]

I know I am butting my head in where it isn't wanted but here goes. All you tree-huggers should not oppose the idea of these NG/oil rigs as the incidence of spillage is very small in this modern era of oil exploration. Not to mention the absolutely amazing eco-systems these rigs provide.

In my mind the only problem for this whole matter would be the resolving of the federal/state incomes from the profits made.

the big problem is the CO2 emissions from burning these fossil fuels. if we keep the fossil fuel in the ground it will not produce CO2 and will not cause global warming.

exploiting ANWR or the gulf of mexico will not prevent an oil crisis, will not reduce our demand on foreign oil, will not prevent drilling in third world nations and will not prevent money from going to terrorists. it will help out those who work in the domestic oil drilling business and will help the profits of the companies that drill domestically. for that result along we are going to wind up dumping all that CO2 into the atmosphere, delay creating alternative and sustainable forms of energy, and cause ecological damage due to seepage (at the least) or a major spill (worst case).

 

[Wayward Son]

You think that is funny? Want to see me get attacked by 500 Americans?

Again?

 

[Trinigordo]

the big problem is the CO2 emissions from burning these fossil fuels. if we keep the fossil fuel in the ground it will not produce CO2 and will not cause global warming.

exploiting ANWR or the gulf of mexico will not prevent an oil crisis, will not reduce our demand on foreign oil, will not prevent drilling in third world nations and will not prevent money from going to terrorists. it will help out those who work in the domestic oil drilling business and will help the profits of the companies that drill domestically. for that result along we are going to wind up dumping all that CO2 into the atmosphere, delay creating alternative and sustainable forms of energy, and cause ecological damage due to seepage (at the least) or a major spill (worst case).

These rigs won't change the CO2 emissions, it has been said alot but I'll repeat it anyways, the world isn't going to decrease usage of these fossil fuels. This would just put some money in the new states to drill pocket.

 

[Wayward Son]

We don't even know that CO2 causes global warming. It's a theory.

Not very long ago, we were told that CO2 causes global cooling. Now they say warming & no one really knows. We've seen temps rise 1 degree over 100 years, something that seems to be statistically insignificant, and we had more CO2 output during the 1st half of that time than the 2nd.

 

[Trinigordo]

Again?

:lol: yeah, how could I forget

 

[lamont]

These rigs won't change the CO2 emissions, it has been said alot but I'll repeat it anyways, the world isn't going to decrease usage of these fossil fuels. This would just put some money in the new states to drill pocket.

uhm, if you keep the "C" underground, then it isn't going to form "CO2" in the atmosphere. take it out, it gets burned and winds up CO2...