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Oceanic Delta4 or Apeks XTX200

Discussion in 'Regulators' started by hamsiss, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. mrjimboalaska

    mrjimboalaska Contributor

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Hawaii
    The Delta 4's w/FDX10 First stages are sweet, I have over 100 dives on mine, with the Din Adapters, and love them, have had them to 150' with no problems. Oceanic has been in the business for a while now. They know how to make a great Reg.
  2. keyshunter

    keyshunter Contributor

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Lower FL. Keys
    The speed of his ascent was probably dependent upon the amount of gas he had when the seat failure occured, plus the severity of the freeflow, and the level of his experience. A second stage which "just starts to freeflow" can be scary impressive, especially to the inexperienced.

    With today's seat materials. a full blown (no pun) freeflow caused by materials failure is rather rare. But, stuff happens. Years ago, it was not unheard of for a chunk to break out of a hp seat. Mares was noted for this, but USD and Scubapro also had their problems. When this happened, there often was a SERIOUS freeflow.
  3. fppf

    fppf Contributor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Buffalo NY
    Yes, I am aware of this.
    None of the training agency's that I 'm aware of teach how to breath form a free flow in a basics OW class. But they all teach air sharing, and how to make a safe controled accent sharing air.

    Point is, even if your reg failed you should still be able to make a safe accent.

    We were not offically taught how to breath from a free flow until the Master Diver course.
  4. hamsiss

    hamsiss Guest

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location: Istanbul, Turkey
    What did Oceanic do about this? doesn't Oceanic hear us???
  5. Diver_C

    Diver_C Registered

    PADI in the PNW teaches breathing from a free-flowing reg
  6. pescador775

    pescador775 Contributor


    Divers are using whatever their diveshop and instructors are pushing. Hamsiss is not a tech diver and he does not use a drysuit or explore caves. He is a novice who dives in clear, tropical conditions. He has no need for a clunky second stage which has been painted yellow and advertised as an octopus. He needs a real octopus, streamlined and omnidirectional. It is false to claim that such a regulator, specifically designed for use as an octopus, will not provide enough air. Where did you hear that?

    Adding the water resistance of a bulky regulator may not bother a tech diver because, typically, they are already heavily equipped and their movements are as restricted as an old time hard hat diver(diving on a string). Yeah, I know, tell that to Holgarth. Yet, the fact is, although it can be claimed for each piece of extra gear that "little" resistance is added, it does add up. Instead of buying a silly seven foot hose to add dexterity (a real hangnail), why not get a regulator that is designed to be omnidirectional in the first place? Stop bringing "tech" diver issues into a conversation about the needs of a new diver.
  7. squidster

    squidster Contributor

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location: High Plains
    Go with scuba pro , its a good reg!
  8. scubafanatic

    scubafanatic Contributor

    ...... I have and use 'tech' reg set ups ( Poseidon Jetstream , 7 ft. hoses ) as well as 'recreational' reg set ups.......and I've got Apeks Egress 'flat' octos on those...in 3 or 4 ft. lengths...which I'm very happy with....... the fact they work upside down means I can get by with shorter octo hoses than needed to deploy a 'conventional' octo...and are perfectly fine for recreational 'reef' diving (non penetration / non overhead diving ).

    I dive SEACURE mouthpieces on most of my primary 2nd-stages, which fit ME, so my intention , for recreational dives, would be do donate the 'octo' and keep the primary for myself....so the octo hose is the longer one for these reg sets. I refuse to be uncomfortable and dive generic mouthpieces on my recreational primary 2nd stages just based on the rare chance I'll have to donate my primary...so the SEACURES are used there and the generic mouthpieces go on the octo.

  9. pro99line

    pro99line Contributor

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: Theodore, AL. USA
    I am currently doing my OW with SDI and in my 4th class we had to breathe from a free flowing reg in the pool.
  10. jd950

    jd950 Contributor

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    PADI requires breathing from a freeflow for 30 seconds during confined dive portion of class. At least they did two weeks ago.

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