Ocean Acidification -- can you see it happening?

[Rusty Shackleford]

You can't "see it" unless you're actually researching it, usually. There are many published articles that measure ocean acidification's effects on skeletal calcification of various species, but it's not something that one can for example take a group of schoolkids out to the beach and point to.

I recommend going to NOAA's Ocean Acidification Program site. It has a lot of stuff to read and look at.
OAP Home

The Smithsonian provides a very nice series of summaries and graphics geared to the general public.
Ocean Acidification

Why all the handwavium and voodoo in that article instead of simply measuring the buffering capacity of seawater? There is a simple test and I never see it mentioned in these studies of 'ocean acidification' by the cultists. I have had that analysis run on fresh water a thousand times. It's reported as calcium carbonate equivalents. There should be historic data on the buffering capacity of seawater somewhere yet nobody ever discusses it? Why I wonder?

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

And by the way, if you kool-ade drinkers are going to associate us with Holocaust Deniers by calling us 'Deniers', which was done earlier in this thread, we are going to start calling you 'Cultists'.

Sorry if we pass on the grape Kool-Ade there Rev. Jones.

I am fine with keep things civil but I am not going to let snarky insults go unchallenged.

 

[RyanT]

There is a simple test and I never see it mentioned in these studies of 'ocean acidification' by the cultists.

Like this one?
Impact of Anthropogenic CO2 on the CaCO3 System in the Oceans

Or this review.

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/a...wVbf6H7a-GG2UbLvytcaCsHlhv_SGpE_AaQM6Vl62O90I

There should be historic data on the buffering capacity of seawater somewhere yet nobody ever discusses it? Why I wonder?

Like this one?

The Geological Record of Ocean Acidification | Science

There are lots of data on this and scientists discuss this all the time.

 

[HKGuns]

Ice sheets are already cracking and calving into the ocean at an incredibly fast rate and if enough ice on top of continents (like Greenland or Antarctica), it will raise sea levels.

I've been hearing this for at least 20 years. Name one coastline that has disappeared. Ice levels are INCREASING, not decreasing. at least try to get your facts straight.

Eleven Years Of Arctic Sea Ice Thickening | Real Climate Science

 

[tursiops]

The Earth's climate has been changing for millions of years and will keep changing.

The issue now is that it is changing rapidly. There is no historical evidence of any previous changes nearly as fast as they are occurring now. So the issue is not so much change, but can people and ecosystems adapt quickly enough. It appears that some people refuse to adapt, dooming their grandchildren to an even harder problem.

Im glad I live in a warm period and not an Ice Age.

Agreed. But you don't want it TOO warm.....that rising sea level thing is a bummer.

If you want the governments to keep coming up with BS like carbon taxes then have fun.

I guess you'd be happier with no government...i.e. no services of any kind?

You can spend all the money in the world to stop the tide. But its still coming in.

No one is even trying to stop the tide. Terrible analogy.

Unfortunately its our tax money and the government people are buying up beach front property.

Pure BS.

There should be historic data on the buffering capacity of seawater somewhere yet nobody ever discusses it?

There is. Try harder.

Like this one?
Impact of Anthropogenic CO2 on the CaCO3 System in the Oceans

Or this review.

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/a...wVbf6H7a-GG2UbLvytcaCsHlhv_SGpE_AaQM6Vl62O90I



Like this one?

The Geological Record of Ocean Acidification | Science

There are lots of data on this and scientists discuss this all the time.

Bingo.

I've been hearing this for at least 20 years. Name one coastline that has disappeared. Ice levels are INCREASING, not decreasing. at least try to get your facts straight.

Eleven Years Of Arctic Sea Ice Thickening | Real Climate Science

You will not get facts from that source (Real Climate Science.) They purposely misquote, use cherry-picked data, and gleefully accept big-petroleum money to keep on publishing nonsense.

 

[RyanT]

Name one coastline that has disappeared.

Isle de Jean Charles, Louisiana.

Here in my own community in Maryland we have a road that floods daily at every normal high tide. 20 years ago it only flooded during storms that pushed the tide above normal.

 

[DBPacific]

I've been hearing this for at least 20 years. Name one coastline that has disappeared. Ice levels are INCREASING, not decreasing. at least try to get your facts straight.

Eleven Years Of Arctic Sea Ice Thickening | Real Climate Science

The only thing mildly accurate about that or your post is that in some regions in the Arctic and Antarctic, ice is increasing. In the vast majority of the Arctic and Antarctic, ice is decreasing and calving at a very fast rate.

Get your facts straight and learn to not use biased sources

 

[Diver below 83]

The only thing mildly accurate about that or your post is that in some regions in the Arctic and Antarctic, ice is increasing. In the vast majority of the Arctic and Antarctic, ice is decreasing and calving at a very fast rate.

Get your facts straight and learn to not use biased sources

facts are not important to people like that

 

[DBPacific]

facts are not important to people like that

Unfortunately you are correct. I must be a naïve kid to still not understand how adults in the age of the Internet believe that facts = opinions and any opinions that don't match their own are clearly fake news, or how people don't know/care to check the validity of sources. I was taught to check sources for bias as early as elementary school.

 

[Diver below 83]

Unfortunately you are correct. I must be a naïve kid to still not understand how adults in the age of the Internet believe that facts = opinions and any opinions that don't match their own are clearly fake news, or how people don't know/care to check the validity of sources. I was taught to check sources for bias as early as elementary school.

the great thing is science doesn’t care about people’s opinions or feelings. Facts rule everything.