no stock -- Dive Gear Express (DGX)

[broncobowsher]

Thanks all I will sign up for notifications. I do understand the supply chain issues but figured their in-house brand would be less susceptible to disruption.

In-house brand is not made in house. Still comes from the same supply chain, if not a little tighter of a chain. Still comes from the same (Asian) suppliers, just with the in-house specifics.

 

[teepee602]

I just got the DGX S1 wing last week (maybe it was the last one) and I'm very happy with the quality. It was as nice as anything else I have seen and I'll probably order two more for family members when they get them back in.

 

[Rick Brant]

DGX Gears BC Systems

We are currently out of stock on the S1 wing, although we do have stock on all our harness systems and accessories. One of our most popular products, many components of the DGX Gears S1 wing are manufactured in Asia with final assembly, testing and packaging done here in the US. Unfortunately...

www.divegearexpress.com

Hey look you missed something, at the start of the top at the beginning

Thank you for pointing out exactly what the post above yours pointed out. I don't believe that note was on the page when I was shopping but that is neither here nor there.

 

[runsongas]

@ChrisMBC almost nothing is 100% made in the USA. as long as you meet certain criteria even if there is a portion of foreign content, it will still be considered made in the USA. but if you can't get those foreign parts, then it still means you are SOL.

see why Ford had to shut a factory in Illinois making Explorer SUVs because they can't get magnets from China

 

[DiveGearExpress]

the wing I got was branded as Made in the USA by Oxycheq.

Today, almost all SCUBA products are an amalgamation of materials and labor from places all around the world. The potentially misleading "Made in ..." statements often only indicate the country of final assembly or sometimes just where it was packaged.

As a result of globalized supply chains and industrial clustering, very little diving equipment is entirely made in the United States. Consider something as ordinary as a rubber regulator hose: The raw hose stock itself is manufactured in Ohio with "Made in the USA" proudly imprinted along the length of the hose, but the rubber jacket on the hose came from the Southeast-Asia region and the thermoplastic liner came from the Asia-Pacific region. The chromed brass fittings and oxygen compatible O-rings were manufactured in mainland China. The coil of raw hose was exported to Taiwan, where it was cut to length and the fittings were swaged on and then the finished hose exported to Italy. The hose was then assembled with a SCUBA regulator containing a variety of parts from all over Europe, where the product also received quality control testing and packaging. The finished regulator package is finally exported to a California warehouse to later be sold on to divers under the famous brand of a publicly owned multi-national outdoor products company. Yet, holding the regulator in your hand all you might see is a brand logo on the stages and "Made in the USA" on the hose.

 

[Manatee Diver]

Yet, holding the regulator in your hand all you might see is a brand logo on the stages and "Made in the USA" on the hose.

I'm not sure using that many foreign made components would qualify for a "Made in the USA" logo.

 

[Awkwatic]

Popular website selling popular gear.

I ordered my dive rite transplate bp/w through them and I ordered the last one before they went out of stock for a while. Just gotta sign up for the re-stock notification.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

Today, almost all SCUBA products are an amalgamation of materials and labor from places all around the world. The potentially misleading "Made in ..." statements often only indicate the country of final assembly or sometimes just where it was packaged.

As a result of globalized supply chains and industrial clustering, very little diving equipment is entirely made in the United States. Consider something as ordinary as a rubber regulator hose: The raw hose stock itself is manufactured in Ohio with "Made in the USA" proudly imprinted along the length of the hose, but the rubber jacket on the hose came from the Southeast-Asia region and the thermoplastic liner came from the Asia-Pacific region. The chromed brass fittings and oxygen compatible O-rings were manufactured in mainland China. The coil of raw hose was exported to Taiwan, where it was cut to length and the fittings were swaged on and then the finished hose exported to Italy. The hose was then assembled with a SCUBA regulator containing a variety of parts from all over Europe, where the product also received quality control testing and packaging. The finished regulator package is finally exported to a California warehouse to later be sold on to divers under the famous brand of a publicly owned multi-national outdoor products company. Yet, holding the regulator in your hand all you might see is a brand logo on the stages and "Made in the USA" on the hose.

First off, I have one of your 30 lb. Gears Donut wings on one my Freedom Plates and I love it very much. And before anyone asks, no it's not for sale, neither the wing nor the plates.

Without getting too political about it, do we not make stuff here because we can't, or we because we won't?
Is it always about the money and a cheap price?
With this tariff war, when stuff gets cut off and or we see disruptions in supply chains etc. even though this while thing is a manufactured crisis, doesn't it still present a wake up call as to what could happen if say our relationship with China deteriorated to the point where we had to stop doing business entirely with them for national security reasons, and lets add that Taiwan is under siege. Where would that leave us? where does it leave you as a business?
Has anyone thought about any of this?
I'm not so sure we could function as a country if everything "made in China" was cut off.
How did we get to this point?
It's actually a very scary position to be in.

 

[lowwall]

Without getting too political about it, do we not make stuff here because we can't, or we because we won't?
Is it always about the money and a cheap price?

Of course we can. You know this better than anyone since you actually have done it by producing Freedom Plates. But in the larger picture, economic actors will tend to maximizing total economic returns. Which I seem to recall is why you stopped making them, even though there is definitely still demand.

The formal theory for this is covered here: Comparative advantage - Wikipedia

With this tariff war, when stuff gets cut off and or we see disruptions in supply chains etc. even though this while thing is a manufactured crisis, doesn't it still present a wake up call as to what could happen if say our relationship with China deteriorated to the point where we had to stop doing business entirely with them for national security reasons, and lets add that Taiwan is under siege. Where would that leave us? where does it leave you as a business?
Has anyone thought about any of this?
I'm not so sure we could function as a country if everything "made in China" was cut off.
How did we get to this point?
It's actually a very scary position to be in.

Reasonable governments do think about this. There are plenty of levers for encouraging or discouraging certain types of economic activity and/or protecting entire industries. Since the end of WW II, the US has used these levers sparingly, preferring lower consumer prices* and greater overall economic activity even if it meant basic manufacturing moved outside our borders.

If there was a national consensus to change our trading priorities to encourage greater self-sufficiency, it could certainly be done. And it could be done with minimal negative impact beyond modestly higher prices for manufactured goods. But that would require careful and thoughtful planning and legislation that industry could rely on. In other words, the complete opposite of what Trump has been doing.

* Note that this is not an absolute, industries that can deliver lots of cash (like energy and finance) or seats in Congress (agriculture) get special treatment even though it negatively impacts consumers. Most of this is in forms that aren't obviously tied to trade although the net effect is to keep out foreign competition, but sometimes it's pretty blatant. For example: the Chicken tax - Wikipedia

 

[Toasterking]

Looking over this website and it seems like a lot of stuff is out-of-stock. For example this and this. Is this brand (DGX) still around? These seem like popular options so I'm surprised both are sold out.

I will say that the basic DGX bp/w is my travel kit and has been nothing but great. Highly recommend and worth the wait.