NAET and asthma

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I considered my asthma diagnosis a death sentence to my diving. It has been a drastic downward spiral for me with no hope for a cure until now. I look forward to being cured to dive again one day. I won't chance diving until I know I won't damage my lungs by trapping air. Even if it takes a year or two I'm willing to stick with it if it works. I'll keep you posted.
Good luck with the Naet trial.
There have been a number of non-conventional approaches that met with resistance from conventional practitioners (ie: my brother and sister), that have found their way into popular acceptance: chiropractic, accupuncture, yoga, etc. Unfortunately, there have been many more that *have* turned out to be snake-oil. Have to keep an open mind... as long as all you have to lose are a few bucks, and some time.

I was under the impression that DAN has a modified policy on asthma, in regard to diving... that as long as the asthma is controlled, diving isn't necessarily absolutely contraindicated... Perhaps I'll look it up...
 
Dr. Gableman was licensed in NY in 1984. He had it revoked in 1992 for 2 counts of sexual misconduct. He was charged with sexual felonies for "biting the breast" of 2 patients. It was reduced to a misdemeanor due to Alford Plea.

http://w3.health.state.ny.us/opmc/factions.nsf/0/1b1571935d6ee5ea85256a4a0047d0e8/$FILE/lc157522.pdf

I can't make a hotlink for it, cut and paste it on explorer, and you can read the 40 page report about him.

His application for license to practice medicine in Rhode Island was denied in 1995 Disciplinary Action Information

The doctor in the link is Charles Grover Gableman, III. Unless there are 2 Charles G. Gableman in the country, it might explain why he would support NAET if he was denied licensure in 2 states for lying about previous crimes (sexual misconduct, and abuse of his wife).

Somehow, he managed to get a license in california, where he practices as a psychiatrist and environmental medicine doctor:
Encinitas Charles Grover Gabelman (MD) : Ca - Encinitas - Doctorsorphysicians



I'm sure there are many main stream M.D's who have bad conduct and have had their license's revoked that still practice medicine. Unless we know the particular situation personally we have no right to condemn them. Also, it does not necessarily mean that they are not qualified in their field. They may have had mitigating circumstances that are not disclosed. In any case we do not condemn modern medicine altogether due to individual personal problems of the doctors. That would be absurd.
 
"The doctor in the link is Charles Grover Gableman, III. Unless there are 2 Charles G. Gableman in the country, it might explain why he would support NAET if he was denied licensure in 2 states for lying about previous crimes (sexual misconduct, and abuse of his wife)."

Yes that must be it - I've heard that many sex abusers and wife beaters support NAET.
 
Good luck with the Naet trial.
There have been a number of non-conventional approaches that met with resistance from conventional practitioners (ie: my brother and sister), that have found their way into popular acceptance: chiropractic, accupuncture, yoga, etc. Unfortunately, there have been many more that *have* turned out to be snake-oil. Have to keep an open mind... as long as all you have to lose are a few bucks, and some time.

I was under the impression that DAN has a modified policy on asthma, in regard to diving... that as long as the asthma is controlled, diving isn't necessarily absolutely contraindicated... Perhaps I'll look it up...

Thanks. I am aware of Dan's policy on asthma but mine has just started practically overnight and is so severe that I couldn't dive without real risk to my lungs.
 
I guess when you have Dr. Nambudripad who graduated from a medical school in Antigua which is not recognized by at least 5 or 6 states in the U.S. (which grants MDs for previous experience as a nurse, chiropractor, or dentist; allow student to attend school for 4 months, and gain credit for 1 year, and has an online program for taking classes - and graduate) supported by a doctor who can not get license to practice medicine due to prior felony charges.

You have to kind of question.

This does not make her any less qualified to help people with NAET that she has developed. NAET is successful for many people. So far it is working for me.
 
Good luck, scubaren. You're right, it doesn't make it any less qualified that someone gets an MD from Health Science college in Antigua. Most likely their education is just as good as any other countries, or even better. She did earn a doctor of chiropracty before her MD.

It is always good to check your doctor online before you make a decision to chose a doctor. I was surprise to find as much as I did on C G Gableman.
 
Good luck, scubaren. You're right, it doesn't make it any less qualified that someone gets an MD from Health Science college in Antigua. Most likely their education is just as good as any other countries, or even better. She did earn a doctor of chiropracty before her MD.

It is always good to check your doctor online before you make a decision to chose a doctor. I was surprise to find as much as I did on C G Gableman.

I don't claim to know anything in regard to the quality of medical training in colleges in other countries. It makes sense to me that if someone develops a new technique (particularly something as non-invasive as NAET) that works that they are well qualified to apply it. They do not need to go to a school to learn it if they pioneered it. Most successful chiropractors and acupuncturists are not MD's. I have personally had great success with both chiropractic and acupuncture for past injuries.
 
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I find it very unsettling that the last two doctors I saw were willing to diagnose me for a lung problem without either an x-ray or a culture (I told both of them that I work in conditions where there is potential for mold/dust/dirt). Most distressing was the second doctor who gave me not one but two asthma medications that have a possible side effect of irregular heartbeat. Then the doc (mentions nothing of these possible side effects) recommends that I see a cardiologist because of a slow pulse rate saying "you might be developing an irregular heartbeat". There is absolutely no family history of heart problems on either side. In fact most of my relatives are still living into their 80's and 90's. My pulse is low to begin with as I am a runner. I check both blood pressure and pulse on a regular basis. On my most recent visit the doctor said my lungs sounded "beautiful". Nevertheless the doctor ordered pulmonary function test. I was told that my lungs were at 99% by the technician. The technician said this is unheard of and she has never seen it. Then the doctor says I need the nebulizer and another test. I really feel like I am nothing more than a source of income to the doctor. I would like to know how much the doctor billed the insurance company for the nebulizer done in the office. In addition I would like to know the amount of kickback this doctor gets for pushing these prescriptions.
 
You are right, some times doctors can cause more harm than good with their prescription pad. Just ask me and my feeling about Lotrisone... I see it every month.

Take care...
 
I find it very unsettling that the last two doctors I saw were willing to diagnose me for a lung problem without either an x-ray or a culture (I told both of them that I work in conditions where there is potential for mold/dust/dirt). Most distressing was the second doctor who gave me not one but two asthma medications that have a possible side effect of irregular heartbeat. Then the doc (mentions nothing of these possible side effects) recommends that I see a cardiologist because of a slow pulse rate saying "you might be developing an irregular heartbeat".

I am sorry to have got focused on the negative issues about NAET. Your description of sudden onset asthma, plus what sounds like a very normal pulmonary function test suggests an irritant or allergic air way disease. So it could be fine everywhere else, except during such location (work) or season (wet/damp if mold, summer if grass, etc.).

I would still recommend a very simple panel of tests - the intradermal skin test - performed in an allergist's office. This involves the application of minute amount of allergens - usually airborne - under the skin on a grid on your back - 20 or more allergens - it is read 20 minutes later. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003519.htm It might be formulated (the number and type of allergens ) depending on your geographic location or occupation. Once you identified the allergen - you can avoid it, or simply using asthma medicine during the season where the allergen is present. If it is dust mite - environmental control - avoiding carpets, HEPA filters, etc... might be suggested. I am not a "real" physician, so I can't tell if your irregular heart beat is the cause, or effect of your lung problem. Some lung problems can lead to heart problems, and some heart problems lead to lung problems. If you can tell us the exact ekg rhythm, perhaps TSM can give you more insight.

I believe that most bronchodilators (asthma medications) are adrenergic products, more specifically for the lung, and less for the heart. Used 3 to 4 times a day, they don't affect the heart much. But used repeatedly, they will accelerate the heart - like drinking too much coffee or pop. So we have to warn you, but not to scare you. Asthma is a potentially deadly disease, so a physician must prescribe a rescue inhaler. The other medicine used in asthma are the inhaled steroids. From a holistic standpoint, this scares the c**p out of me to be puffing daily. But apparently, doctors prescribe it for daily use all the time. The third type seems safer to me, is the cromolyn (intal) type, which has no steroid, and does not affect the heart. I am sure there are other classes since I graduated from med school years ago. My son and I are both allergic to cats - and the only time I get wheezy is if my cat vomits.... or if I am cleaning up vomits. And it is funny, as I've always owned a cat for the last 20 years!

Individuals develop allergies spontanously throughout life. I no longer use chapsticks, as I developed an allergy to an ingredient about 4 years ago. That SB'er who developed milk allergy out of the blue, for instance. If you have an identifiable allergen - you might want to look into it and avoid it. Seek alternative medicine if you like, but please also look into seeing a good allergist for your asthma care. It is very holistic, in my opinion, to identify an allergen.... Then simply actively seeking to avoid it. Beware of the REAL docs who depends on a simple blood test and tell you what to avoid, and what not to eat. That test has no value in most cases of allergy.... but will identify what you are NOT allergic to well.
 
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