I'm still with Rick on this. Maybe it's because of having someone killed by a drunk stoner or because I myself do neither and have not for a number of years. Even though when I was sick this past weekend a shot of ginger brandy would have been real nice I know it would not have ended there. I dive for the pureness of it. Doing something that is not natural and being totally at ease with it. The sound of my breathing which eventually is not noticed either and the weightlessness. Why anyone would pollute this experience or somehow artifically try to enhance it is beyond me. I said before I did these things in my youth but at this point in my life where I'm comfortable with who I am and what I am makes artifical stimulation or relaxation unnecessary. And again, put me in a position where my safety, security, or freedom is at risk and we will have a big problem.