Low on air in deco

[lorien]

not so sure, this probably means that the instructor won't teach the kid..which given his stubborness up until now may mean he does it without instruction..which is worse..

He's been doing it all without instruction anyway :11: Not too sure it is going to make a difference to this kid either way. At least, hopefully, the instructor will try to sit down with him and explain a few things. Maybe the kid will actually listen? OK, may not be likely but we can always hope.

 

[Sideband]

His instructor may have some advantage that we don't. It's possible he may still be an authority figure and hold some respect that we don't. Also, since he either outright lied about what his instructor told him (in a public forum including his name and shop), or completely misunderstood what was said and posted it here, his instructor has a lot of reasons to set the kid straight. His nameis on that C-card. In my talk with the shop it sounded like the parent/s were unaware of what was going on as well. Hopefully they will be brought up to date and informed of the dangers. Unless they are worthless, and I hope they aren't, they can set the uncle straight.

Joe

 

[Mandy3206]

I was thinking that this guy was just jerking us off, but now I'm worried about an accident that's bound to happen anytime soon.

Hope Chris straighten the whole situation before it's too late!!!

Probably the kid is just plain ignorant and feel indestructible like many of us adrenalin junkies felt when we were that age.

Yes, I felt indestructible at that age, but allways kept myself 1 step away from the edge, indestructible yes, stupid never.

 

[mania]

OK. I called the sho[p and it is the correct one. I told them about this thread and that they were specifically mentioned as well as an instructor named Chris. You will all be happy to know that I was told Chris is a very conservative instructor and would NEVER give such advice. They knew exactly who I was talking about when I explained what was going on and although I did not speak to Chris personally they said that he may call and that he would be VERY interested to find out what was being said.

btw, the nice lady I spoke with said the "uncle" is not rescue certified yet either.

Me thinks the boy is about to get his leash jerked.
Joe

Joe
Well done!!!!
Now let's hope that even if the kid doesn't listen to the instructor he will notify kid's parents. They - let's hope for - should have some influance over the kid.
Unless which was my first guess he is a troll and everything he wrote is not true. And because it seems he lied about his uncle level of certification as well as what was said to him by the instructor - I do have the basis to question all the other stuff, don't I?
Mania

 

[The Chairman]

Thanks Joe,

It's great to see that we have divers who REALLY care about eliminating all risks... even when it's not their own!

 

[diverbrian]

NetDoc,

One thing about your last statement. When we take a breath of compressed air and go under the water, we take a risk... period.

Joe did the right thing. (Joe, I am glad to have met you. To be honest, I would not have thought of contacting the shop about this.) But, to say that we are eliminating risk is incorrect. You are looking at an instance of helping to mitigate it to a sane level instead of near suicide.

I wouldn't want someone looking at anything to do with diving and say that there is no risk. That is not only incorrect. That is an illusion. Air embolisms, drownings, and undeserved DCS hits still happen. Throw in physical types of things on the boat (my most common concern actually) just as cuts and blunt tramua and get a reminder of why every diver should at least get rescue trained. We can knock the risk down to near neglible, but we can't eliminate it without staying out of the water. Even if you do everything correctly, Mr. Murphy has still been known to make his presence known.

Looking at the standards of one agency that I train with... this kid would not have a C-Card. Safe attitude is written right into the standards and the attitude that I have seen this young man display here goes the opposite way of the reason that we take training. Realizing that we always have a risk goes a long ways having a better attitude.

 

[mania]

I'm pretty sure that NetDoc knows that. I think he wanted to say eliminating unneccesary risks - which here is the case. We can't eliminate all of them as diving is a risky sport but we can eliminate the unneccesery ones, can't we? And Joe did a very clever thing.
Mania

 

[diverbrian]

I'm pretty sure that NetDoc knows that. I think he wanted to say eliminating unneccesary risks - which here is the case. We can't eliminate all of them as diving is a risky sport but we can eliminate the unneccesery ones, can't we? And Joe did a very clever thing.
Mania

I am sure of much of what you say as well. I just wanted a clarification on the record as this is a well-read forum on diving. Words can be taken out of context. It helps if we keep that term uneccessary between the word eliminate and risk, LOL.

 

[alemaozinho]

If I go into deco, and I am low on air what is the best way to complete the deco faster? My max depth is 140' right now, I am diving with just compressed air right now.

plan your dive and dive your plan ,you,re not supposed to run low on air........

 

[spearfisherman55]

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