Low on air in deco

[ScubaTwo]

thats ok
we all where at one time.... then we learn

That sounds...ominous. Stop it your scaring me!

 

[captain]

All though I am not saying it's Ok for spearfisher55 because of his age and inexperience, I have to say that the dives he is doing are the usual profiles that most of the local spearfishermen do here on the oil rigs. 150 to 180 feet on air is common. Just about nobody uses nitrox or trimix. Dives are deep and short. If the diver doesn,t see a fish he want to shoot he is back up, sometimes in less than 5 minutes. Boats go from rig to rig looking for fish. It is diving like nowhere else in the country. At times you have to penetrate a 10 to 50 foot deep murk layer with maybe 2 to 5 foot vis before hitting clear water. Currents going different directions at different depths. The bottom depth may be 400+ feet. Read the Helldivers Rodeo, some of it is a bit overblown but much of it isn't. I ran charters for some of the spearfishing clubs and I dove with them so I speak from personal experience.

 

[ScubaTwo]

All though I am not saying it's Ok for spearfisher55 because of his age and inexperience, I have to say that the dives he is doing are the usual profiles that most of the local spearfishermen do here on the oil rigs. 150 to 180 feet on air is common. Just about nobody uses nitrox or trimix. Dives are deep and short. If the diver doesn,t see a fish he want to shoot he is back up, sometimes in less than 5 minutes. Boats go from rig to rig looking for fish. It is diving like nowhere else in the country. At times you have to penetrate a 10 to 50 foot deep murk layer with maybe 2 to 5 foot vis before hitting clear water. Currents going different directions at different depths. The bottom depth may be 400+ feet. Read the Helldivers Rodeo, some of it is a bit overblown but much of it isn't. I ran charters for some of the spearfishing clubs and I dove with them so I speak from personal experience.

It sounds like all the more reason he should not be doing so without further training.

 

[mossym]

All though I am not saying it's Ok for spearfisher55 because of his age and inexperience, I have to say that the dives he is doing are the usual profiles that most of the local spearfishermen do here on the oil rigs. 150 to 180 feet on air is common. Just about nobody uses nitrox or trimix. Dives are deep and short. If the diver doesn,t see a fish he want to shoot he is back up, sometimes in less than 5 minutes. Boats go from rig to rig looking for fish. It is diving like nowhere else in the country. At times you have to penetrate a 10 to 50 foot deep murk layer with maybe 2 to 5 foot vis before hitting clear water. Currents going different directions at different depths. The bottom depth may be 400+ feet. Read the Helldivers Rodeo, some of it is a bit overblown but much of it isn't. I ran charters for some of the spearfishing clubs and I dove with them so I speak from personal experience.

you're not this kids uncle by any chance are you?

only kidding, but while that may be type of diving down there, i think what has everyone worried is that this kid obviously has nowhere near the maturity or savvy to be doing these dives..whoever is taking them out really needs a reality check

 

[ScubaTwo]

you're not this kids uncle by any chance are you?

I was thinking that but I was afraid to ask

 

[P_Abercrombie]

This is more like the answer I was looking for. don't I need to be 18 years old before I can take deco diving course. I can't get doubles yet, because I am only 15 and can't handle that much weight yet. I am going to try to take the AOW course this summer.

I talked to Chris at adventure Quest today, and he is fine with me diving to 130'. He said for my air, that in the AOW course he teaches the right way to breath. He also teaches air planning. He said that for the cert weekend, we do 5 dives 3 to 100' and 2 to 85', one night dive, one navgation dive, one dive that he teaches us how to use the computers to see when we need to go up to have enough air. I don't remember what he said about the other 2. He said that the AOW teaches you how to dive better at deeper depths. He said since I am smaller younger and smaller that my uncle, I require less air than him. He said once I start breathing right I will have more air left when we come up. He also said that since I am not going far away from my buddy far a long time right now, that my buddy is my pony bottle. He said once I start diving far away from my buddy for a long time. That's when we will talk about a pony bottle.

Fantastic!! You finally got the answer you were looking for! You have posted to two separate lists and received the same advice from divers more expereinced than you, advice that you will now ignore because one individual said what you are doing is ok. GET THIS THROUGH YOU THICK SKULL; YOU DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO DIVE THE WAY YOUR ARE DIVING!!!
Do us all a favor; quit wasting our time. And do me one favor; send me one more PM with your picture and real name so I can make sure I never get on a boat with you and also so that you can never sign up for any class that I teach. You are dangerous and you don't listen.

 

[JeffG]

Why is anyone bothering with this, he clearly isnt listening, hes either going to stay lucky and become one of those nutty divers you stay away from, or end up a statistic, so far hes the former but time is not on his side.

Because everyone loves a train wreck...and They took away Novadiver

 

[Scuba]

I've read a few posts in this thread. I suppose I can say it is comical, since it isn't tragic - yet.

He also said that since I am not going far away from my buddy far a long time right now, that my buddy is my pony bottle. He said once I start diving far away from my buddy for a long time. That's when we will talk about a pony bottle.

What makes you think you are going to get a chance to dive far away from your buddy for a long time, then come up, and start talking about a pony bottle?

spearfisherman55, some of us older folks, have been young and bold, on top of the world without the concerns of mere mortals. Somehow we got lucky and now know better. Many have had no such luck.

Your statements, the acceptance of them, and the lack of questioning them, bely your age, general inexperience, your presence of mind, your common sense judgment and lack thereof. It's good that you ask how to increase your safety in your dives. But I'm afraid you are dismissing that which is the most important action you can take to increase your safety. It is being offered almost unanimously - give yourself more time to mature before doing more complex higher risk dives. Do not underestimate the importance of timing.

My cyber friend, the time for you to adequately safely do the dives you speak of - is not now. You will find out as you get older that time is the most precious resource you have. Use it wisely.

Do you question your uncle's advise as much as you question the ones here? Are you capable of such? If not, thats another reason to reconsider.

 

[TX101]

If I'm not mistaken, this quote from the post I was referring to, indicates to me that you were referring to PADI, not TDI.

But if you wish to clarify that matter at this time, please do so.

Man, this is why I avoid this board nowdays. I make a good, valid point and people just wanna argue about nomenclature and forget about arguing the merits of the point.

 

[captain]

No, I am not his uncle but I would like to hear from him on this board.