Who is Ray? I thought Antonio was the owner of that place. I remember Antonio said his family or his siblings made lots of leather goods so maybe Ray is a brother? During the really tough Covid shutdowns I think Antonio said he was learning the making of leather goods from his family so maybe he tried to go in that direction a little while before getting back into the jewelry again?
I can't prove I'm not just having a brain fart and totally messing up identities, but we've been having shoes and belts and stuff made there for at least a decade and originally went in for huaraches after Sr. Solis of Huarachería Solis died. The guy of whom I'm thinking is definitely the owner. Last month he showed us the new workbenches he'd just had installed in back.
I'll be able to check whether I should be mortified with embarrassment in a few days.