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Tom, if we ever go diving, you can rest assured i won't sue you if i survive, and
i won't sue you if i'm dead at the end... so.... all-around win-win situation!

:wink:

i say this seriously: the best part of being a lawyer is dealing with good laywers.
the worst part of being a lawyer is dealing with bad lawyers.
 
justleesa:
I am very careful when we have a lawyer diving with us.

I assume you are always very careful -- which is why you have such a good reputation.

I do, however, understand what you are saying.

In my experience, lawyers will usually puff up a bit and then go away. Being a diver and a lawyer, my guess is that a lawyer who is a diver will be less likely to take a case against a dive operator than a lawyer who is not a diver. And, as to someone who has a grievance, an unhappy non-lawyer is as likely to find a lawyer to sue as an unhappy lawyer is to sue on his or her own behalf.

As to myself, I figure that if something happens to me on a dive, its my fault because I am responsible for myself.

BTW: I'm not really ItsBruce ... I'm a lawyer using his computer while he is out ... making furniture... yea, that's it, making furniture. And, if ItsBruce hurts himself while using a tablesaw, its his fault, not the tablesaw's fault.
 
ItsBruce:
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but lawyer jokes are actionable.


speaking of which:

why do so many people go to law school?

they're not smart enough to get into medical school
 
H2Andy:
some lawyers get off on their ability to "sue" anybody
There were a group of these in LA that went around shaking down small businesses. California had a consumer protection statute that, until recently, allowed people to sue in the public interest for "unfair" business practices. The lawyers were entitled to fees from the defendants if they prevailed. In any event, this group went around looking for even the smallest thing about which they could bring lawsuits and then they would settle with the defendant. Even if the lawsuit was frivolous, it was less expensive to pay a few thousand dollars to settle than to pay a lawyer to defend the case. The upshot of this is that the entire gang of lawyers was disbarred.

What people should keep in mind is that law schools are graduating so many people that the only way for many lawyers to earn a livelihood is to take any case that comes his or her way and hope for the best.

BTW: I'm still not ItsBruce. He is at work ... writing computer programs, yeah, that's it, writing computer programs.
 
catherine96821:
At my old horse training barn (hunter/jumpers) in SoCal, the trainer would not take lawyer's children.

I can rope and shoot from horseback. To this day the fellow who taught me to ride believes I sell shoes for a living.

BTW: I'm still not ItsBruce.
 
jjgibo: When I was in my first year of law school, one of the best pieces of advice I got was to forget about all of my hobbies and interests and to focus on being the best lawyer I could possibly be and to get a job with the biggest, toughest firm I could. I got such a job and spent long hours at it. It made me a very good lawyer. Apart from the fact that being good at it made me actually enjoy the work, it ultimately gave me the freedom to enjoy other things. (Sitting in Oahu a bit more than two years ago, I decided to leave my firm and handle just a select few cases. Now I enjoy practicing law again...and I get to sail, fish and dive and to do so with my kid.)

Big tough firms will work you hard. Some say it is that they want to get their money's worth out of you. That's not completely true. What they want is to find out if you've got what it takes to be a partner and to someday run the firm. Remember, the current senior partners' retirements will be funded with income you generate when you are a senior partner. Thus, they want to make sure you have what it takes to be a senior partner. And, when the time comes (unless you chuck it early), you will want to make sure that your successors have what it takes, and the way to do that is to really test the kids you hire out of law school.

Right now, I will not have more than 10 open matters. That includes matters where I am hired to testify as an expert and matters where I act as a mediator for the Court of Appeal. It gives me time to enjoy life.

BTW: I'm still not ItsBruce.
 
Hey guys thank you very much for the advice, this is awesome. I have a few options open to me when I get home but with options come decisions. I really appreciate your thoughts andy. I think I will have to take the harder work more money route, especially for the first five years, those darn student loans are crazy. But you have also given me a lot to think about. Keep it coming ladies and gents!
 
Honest lawyers and space aliens have something in common. You always hear about them but no one ever sees one. :wink:

Actually the attorney sitting on dhermans lap is kinda nice. I kinda like her.

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