That’s not what happened, for some reason the couple panicked and shot for the surface, the guide tried to help but dumped to much air and all three fell deep in a tangle, the woman got clear and headed for the surface, why did she not help she was the buddy? The guide then got clear and got to the surface, this was not a training dive, they were divers and were responsible for there own buoyancy.
Instructor sentenced after diver's death
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Dan
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The facts are:
1. The woman ascent & alive.
2. The man sunk.
3. The guide witnessed the man was in trouble, sinking & swam to the surface.
4. The guide is an instructor, familiar with the dive site, trained to handle such situation.
5. The man drown at 36m depth.
6. The court disagrees with you.
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Dan
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You need to keep on reading the rest of the posts. At post #31, on page 4, @leadduck who dove there 2 weeks before the accident mentions “....The guide was sentenced because he left the victim at 36m. According to the expert witness the victim was overweighted but the guide could have easily inflated the victim's BC; there was no technical problem, the guide just didn't do it and went up alone.
Although they had paid the guide for the event, I don't think that it was relevant for this particular case. Any diver deserting his buddy in need for no reason would've been investigated for involuntary manslaughter. It's because team members agree to help each other and the victim accepted an elevated risk because of that agreement....”
Dan
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You are entitled to your opinion of the way things should be in the world. You should be aware, though, that almost no professional dive operations and courts agree with you. (I said "almost" because I don't know everyone--I am pretty sure it is actually unanimous.) If you get a job for a professional dive operation, they will expect you to take appropriate steps when leading the dive to secure the safety of their customers. If you don't do that, a fatality ensues, and you end up in court, it will be the court's beliefs that prevail, not yours.
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Dan
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I found this info interesting:
Cold shock response - Wikipedia
“Cold shock response is the physiological response of organisms to sudden cold, especially cold water.
In humans, cold shock response is perhaps the most common cause of death from immersion in very cold water,[1] such as by falling through thin ice. The immediate shock of the cold causes involuntary inhalation, which if underwater can result in drowning. The cold water can also cause heart attack due to vasoconstriction;[2] the heart has to work harder to pump the same volume of blood throughout the body. For people with heart disease, this additional workload can cause the heart to go into arrest. Inhalation of water (and thus drowning) may result from hyperventilation. Some people are much better able to survive swimming in very cold water due to body or mental conditioning.[1]
Hypothermia from exposure to cold water is not as sudden as is often believed. A person who survives the initial minute of trauma (after falling into icy water), can survive for at least thirty minutes provided they don't drown. However, the ability to perform useful work (for example to save oneself) declines substantially after ten minutes (as the body protectively cuts off blood flow to "non-essential" muscles).[1]“
It could happen to the victim to the point of passing out or just got muscle lock & couldn’t even be able to push the power inflation button. The guide just saw him sinking to the abyss & left the scene.
Cold shock response - Wikipedia
“Cold shock response is the physiological response of organisms to sudden cold, especially cold water.
In humans, cold shock response is perhaps the most common cause of death from immersion in very cold water,[1] such as by falling through thin ice. The immediate shock of the cold causes involuntary inhalation, which if underwater can result in drowning. The cold water can also cause heart attack due to vasoconstriction;[2] the heart has to work harder to pump the same volume of blood throughout the body. For people with heart disease, this additional workload can cause the heart to go into arrest. Inhalation of water (and thus drowning) may result from hyperventilation. Some people are much better able to survive swimming in very cold water due to body or mental conditioning.[1]
Hypothermia from exposure to cold water is not as sudden as is often believed. A person who survives the initial minute of trauma (after falling into icy water), can survive for at least thirty minutes provided they don't drown. However, the ability to perform useful work (for example to save oneself) declines substantially after ten minutes (as the body protectively cuts off blood flow to "non-essential" muscles).[1]“
It could happen to the victim to the point of passing out or just got muscle lock & couldn’t even be able to push the power inflation button. The guide just saw him sinking to the abyss & left the scene.
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It’s the so called “professional dive operations” that are selling the lie that if people dive with them they don’t have to worry about taking responsibility for their own safety and they will keep them safe and that is the reason that man drowned.
So it's 100% of the dive operations in the world that are causing the problem? I wonder why none of them see the wisdom of adopting your philosophy.
