If a tank fail hydro, what happen to it

[3D diver]

I had two old tanks condemned because of cracks near the valve found during a VIP. One was replaced at minimal charge by the manufacturer, the other I gave to a friend to use for target practice.

 

[Scared Silly]

They should not mark out anything on the cylinder without the owners permission. The owner may want to take the cylinder to another hydro shop for a second opinion. If the DOT gets XXX out then there is no need for a second opinion now is there.

Pretty much implicit when you give a cylinder to a hydro shop that you are giving permission for it to be condemned if it fails. Often the same when giving it a dive shop for a VIP however a cylinder that fails a VIP can often pass with remediation. Thus a dive shop should not condemn a cylinder without permission.

That said with either case it would be best to have the customer sign something acknowledging what my happen in the case of a failure.

 

[Chugwhump]

Mine came back with the serial number stamped over with XXXXXXXXXX's. I'm torn between making a bell or a cannon out of it.

If I have a vote in this matter...
I prefer that a bell shaped cannon is the best idea.

Chug
1 Walter Kidde left to empty.

 

[SC_Hoaty]

I had two old tanks condemned because of cracks near the valve found during a VIP. One was replaced at minimal charge by the manufacturer, the other I gave to a friend to use for target practice.

Was the friend named Whalerkyle? (http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/surface-interval/50551-i-would-love-see-tank-explode.html)

 

[Culcuhain]

I think the problem you have is that you left it there for a year. Most shops (any retail) say if it is left there over 30 days it becomes the shops property. Unless you had something in writing, the probably viewed your tank as abandoned property and scrapped it. Tanks are cheap, just buy another one.

My question is that are they being distroy at the hydroshop, or should I be able to get my tank back.

I am asking because I took a AL80 in for hydro 6+ monthes ago. After that, I went out of country for a job for 6 monthes. Now I am back, I called the shop for my tank status. They said my tank failed and have been distroyed, and it is the law that tank fail hydro can't be returned to the customer. Is there any true to this? Or the shop just simply lost my tank?

 

[ianr33]

Who actually disposed of the tank. A hydro shop or a dive shop? (not that it makes much difference,just curious)

 

[eelnoraa]

I think the problem you have is that you left it there for a year.

Not that long. About 6 monthes. Still long enough for them I guess. I couldn't help it as I was out of the country

Who actually disposed of the tank. A hydro shop or a dive shop? (not that it makes much difference,just curious)

From the dive shop, they said taino was destroyed by the hydro shop when test fail, it is the regulation. I never have the chance to talk to the hydro shop, in fact, I don't even know which hydro shop the dive shop used.

 

[rhwestfall]

do a little research - from what i have read in regard to hydro - it was to be returned to you (unsure as to markings). Now, as to the 6+ months... I think you may have abandoned your interest...... My receipt from a recent drop off stated (shop policy) that anything left over 30 days became their property. I specifically asked them to hold them for me longer as I was going to be unavailable to pick them up. I have also checked with them recently as to their status so that they don't "disappear".

Good luck. At best, you might get some sort of a "deal" on a replacement tank (unless they can show you a specific shop policy).

 

[NAM001]

YOU MAY WANT TO CHECK ON THE REGS ON THAT ... IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NO REPEAT TESTING IS ALLOWED AFTER A HYDRO FAILURE. Sorry for the caps. Perhaps some testers that can quote some regs can chime in. PSI says render the tank unusable if a vis fails, but also has the customer sign a waiver up front saying they understand it will be rendered unusable upon failure.

Also unlike with the hydro a visual has 2 kinds of failure. one if a failure that requires condemning. Air leaking through the walls or deep cracks or gouges in it. The other kind is one that fail because of perhaps rusting. it gets a failure and a reinspection upon remedial action, such as tumbling the tank. if it then passed the vis all is ok but if not it is condemned.

They should not mark out anything on the cylinder without the owners permission. The owner may want to take the cylinder to another hydro shop for a second opinion. If the DOT gets XXX out then there is no need for a second opinion now is there.

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

VIP can be very subjective and an industry standard, not a government reg. If the shop destroys the tank for failure on a borderline call, they probably have some liability regardless of the waiver. I had 2 tanks fail hydro for "cracks" the same day, the PSI trained inspector removed the old VIP stickers and returned the tanks intact advising me of the nature of the failure. Did not charge me either. On examination by a different shop with more qualifications, they passed.

Hydro I believe is a must more objective test and less prone to false fails.