How many of you don't use a "standard" octo?

[Nemrod]

It's not effective if you give it to someone and they don't know how to use it and drown...unless you don't like them, then it would be very effective.

No, your not following me here. I am donating my primary and I go to the Airbuddy. :blinking: BUT, uh, there are some people I might like to drown but that would not be nice. Your on the safe list . N

 

[b1gcountry]

I understood you. I was just pointing it out to others.

 

[Web Monkey]

Maybe one day I'll actually understand why people think "comfort" is of any importance in an emergency.

That's easy. Someone comes flying up from behind you, OOA and about a millisecond from full-blown panic or drowning and grabs your reg (either one).

If the reg they're on sucks, chances are excellent that more Bad Things will happen very soon. Maybe they'll bolt, maybe they'll spit it out and drown, maybe they'll bolt and take you with them. Who knows?

In an emergency, I certainly want a reg that breathes well and I wouldn't give anything less to my buddy (or a stranger).

If someone gets a reg, I want there to be no question that it's able to deliver way more air than they could possible ever need.

Terry

 

[muddiver]

It's not effective if you give it to someone and they don't know how to use it and drown...unless you don't like them, then it would be very effective.

I would probably drown trying to use that

It looks a lot like breathing off a pnumophathometer hose. I tried that in commercial dive school and couldn't handeling.

Your more diver-man than I am to use one of those.

 

[Thalassamania]

Did they make you breathe out of the top of a MK-V too?

 

[Nemrod]

I would probably drown trying to use that

It looks a lot like breathing off a pnumophathometer hose. I tried that in commercial dive school and couldn't handeling.

Your more diver-man than I am to use one of those.

Nah, it is easy, you bite on the mouthpiece that flexes the tilt vlave releasing air. You leave your lips slightly open and excess just bleeds away. I have, as I said, completed entire, active dives below 100 feet with no problem. I am confident that in an emergency I could give my buddy my second (on a longer hose) and I could take the Airbuddy and do just fine for as long as need be. I like the zero profile, no bulk, function only design. Invisible until I need it.

Your right though, you need to practice once or twice with it, if you bite down without clearing your mouth of water then it blows the water into your larnyx which is a big surprise:11: Much like pushing the purge button on the old Tekna T2100 without first exhaling to clear the water or at least blocking the mouthpiece with your tongue .

N

 

[charlesml3]

If the reg they're on sucks, chances are excellent that more Bad Things will happen very soon. Maybe they'll bolt, maybe they'll spit it out and drown, maybe they'll bolt and take you with them. Who knows?

In an emergency, I certainly want a reg that breathes well and I wouldn't give anything less to my buddy (or a stranger).

If someone gets a reg, I want there to be no question that it's able to deliver way more air than they could possible ever need.

I've heard this argument time and time again against octo-inflators and I just don't buy it. There is NO predicting how someone in a panic is going to behave. They may spit out any 2nd stage handed to them. Since we can't predict anything under these circumstances the argument just doesn't hold.

In addition, I haven't seen or heard of any stories where someone got into trouble and the situation was exaserbated by a non-standard (whatever that is) octo or octo-inflator.

I'm quite sure my octo inflator will deliver just as much air as my primary. It may not be as silky and it may even breathe a little wet. Big deal. It'll get both of us to the surface. Comfort is not a consideration here.

-Charles

 

[Web Monkey]

I've heard this argument time and time again against octo-inflators and I just don't buy it. There is NO predicting how someone in a panic is going to behave. They may spit out any 2nd stage handed to them. Since we can't predict anything under these circumstances the argument just doesn't hold.

Actually, you get the octo/inflator, so nobody cares but you if it breathes hard. You really can't donate it because the hose is too short and you will have given away the controls to your BC.

The OOA diver gets your primary.

Terry

 

[muddiver]

Did they make you breathe out of the top of a MK-V too?

No, DIT was the only school that was still diving MK V's. All the other schools considered them much too obsolete because none of the companies offshore (primarily the Gulf) would ever set up a MK V rig.

There are a few heavy gear divers in the harbors and inland, but I would expect that to be an OJT type of setup.

Anyway, doesn't the MK V have like 20 or 30 minutes of breathable air in it? That is why there is no bailout system for that type of hat.

 

[Thalassamania]

No, DIT was the only school that was still diving MK V's. All the other schools considered them much too obsolete because none of the companies offshore (primarily the Gulf) would ever set up a MK V rig.

There are a few heavy gear divers in the harbors and inland, but I would expect that to be an OJT type of setup.

Anyway, doesn't the MK V have like 20 or 30 minutes of breathable air in it? That is why there is no bailout system for that type of hat.

I was visiting one of the schools and they asked me if I'd ever tried a Mk-V. I had not so I took the opportunity. The topside folks had some fun with me and did something that let the water level creep up my neck and then my face. I spent what seemed like a long time with the water in the helmet so high that I had to tilt my head back to breathe out of the top of the helmet. I guess that's one of the little "initiation" games that they play(ed).