Here we go again...PST tanks marked E9791/SP9791

[-JD-]

Federal Register :: Request Access

www.ecfr.gov

Look at where it mention INCIDENT in multiple places in the one paragraph of which this is only one of many in the document.

Just a snipet below:

The application must include a statement describing all relevant operational, shipping, and incident experience of which the applicant is aware in connection with the special permit since its issuance or most recent renewal. If the applicant is aware of no incidents, the applicant must so certify. When known to the applicant, the statement must indicate the approximate number of shipments made or packages shipped, as applicable, and the number of shipments or packages involved in any loss of contents, including loss by venting other than as authorized in subchapter C.

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So I would think this is for a legal beagle?

Are you aware of any instances where the cylinders did not perform to their nominal specifications?

I don't think they mean "dropped on toe" or "got lost in shippment". Deformed, Leaked, or ruptured would probably be relevant.

For me, it would not seem to be particularly (legally) risky to affirm "no incidents known to me" if one doesn't know of any.

I think the bigger risk is that the bureaucracy is likely to sit on individuals' renewals requests because of 1) avoidance of volume, 2) avoidance of precedent.

 

[rjack321]

Are you aware of any instances where the cylinders did not perform to their nominal specifications?

I don't think they mean "dropped on toe" or "got lost in shippment". Deformed, Leaked, or ruptured would probably be relevant.

For me, it would not seem to be particularly (legally) risky to affirm "no incidents known to me" if one doesn't know of any.

I think the bigger risk is that the bureaucracy is likely to sit on individuals' renewals requests because of 1) avoidance of volume, 2) avoidance of precedent.

Agree. I have 4 PST exemption tanks and can say with confidence none have leaked or ruptured lol

PHMSA would probably sit on your application and reach out to the new PST owners and poke them to renew - which I imagine is already happening behind the scenes, perhaps overly optimistically

 

[SlugLife]

Are you aware of any instances where the cylinders did not perform to their nominal specifications?

I don't think they mean "dropped on toe" or "got lost in shippment". Deformed, Leaked, or ruptured would probably be relevant.

For me, it would not seem to be particularly (legally) risky to affirm "no incidents known to me" if one doesn't know of any.

I think the bigger risk is that the bureaucracy is likely to sit on individuals' renewals requests because of 1) avoidance of volume, 2) avoidance of precedent.

Sometimes squeaky wheel gets the grease. If it takes dozens of us annoying government officials who don't want to do their job, then perhaps they'll get the hint.

 

[Tracy]

FYI, it renewed today.

 

[OrcasC205]

It looks like our long national nightmare is over.

Breaking News: PSI-PCI Announces US Department of Transportation Has Renewed Special Permit 9791 through 2026 - DiveNewswire

PSI-PCI has been notified that Special Permit 9791 has been renewed by the US Department of Transportation Special Permits office. This action was taken subsequent to an industry alert regarding the expiration of the previous Special Permit. PSI-PCI officials who spoke with DOT representatives...

www.divenewswire.com

Edited to add: It looks like @Tracy and I posted at the same time.

 

[scrane]

Does this authorization also apply to tanks stamped : DOT - E9791 ?

 

[Tracy]

Does this authorization also apply to tanks stamped : DOT - E9791 ?

That is the exemption we are talking about.

 

[rhwestfall]

Does this authorization also apply to tanks stamped : DOT - E9791 ?

 

[Still Kicking]

God wanted to go diving but he didn't have any full tanks (yes, even God needs tanks).

So he came down and told PST and the DOT to get their heads out of their respective asses.

Thank God!

 

[rjack321]

It looks like our long national nightmare is over.

Breaking News: PSI-PCI Announces US Department of Transportation Has Renewed Special Permit 9791 through 2026 - DiveNewswire

PSI-PCI has been notified that Special Permit 9791 has been renewed by the US Department of Transportation Special Permits office. This action was taken subsequent to an industry alert regarding the expiration of the previous Special Permit. PSI-PCI officials who spoke with DOT representatives...

www.divenewswire.com

Edited to add: It looks like @Tracy and I posted at the same time.

Oh no no, we'll revive this thread in 2026. LOL