The bolt with the rounded tip does scratch the tank and it is a bit of a PITA the first few times to get it to sit right. A flat or flush bolt would work much better (of Jeff's clip solution).
Halcyon STA-less BP / Wing Questions
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This has been a topic of a couple threads. The wife and I use zeagle camband pads on our single tank rigs. I tried putting innertube around the bolt heads and still had scatches. The wobble of the tank was the problem I didn't like. Sure makes it a nice tight rig and just enough offset to miss the bolt heads. You can see the remains of the innertube "fix" in the photo.
tony
tony
Dryglove
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What i found that worked really nice was a 1/4" ss v-tapered bolt head.The top of the bolt will sit flush with the top of the grommet and will not scratch your tank cause the top of the bolt is flat and flush with the top of the grommet.Simply apply a 1/4" wing nut to the inside channel to hold the wing to the bp.
It sits nice and flush unlike the other bolts.GearHead
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My 2001 Wing originally came with the rounded head bolts, but after much tank-scratching, I talked to Halcyon and they sent me a set of 1/4 inch flat-head tapered bolts w/wing nuts, on their dime. To be extra careful, I coated them with tool dip and haven't had a scratch since. My replacement wing is due on Tuesday and I'm wondering if the new version of the Pioneer has the tank sitting higher, or if the integrated rods are the same gauge. If it's higher, I might not bother with the tool dip.
But Jeff, now you've got me thinking about those plastic clips from Lowe's. I hunted their plumbing department for plastic 1/4" hardware last year but struck out. Looks like I was in the wrong department . . .
But Jeff, now you've got me thinking about those plastic clips from Lowe's. I hunted their plumbing department for plastic 1/4" hardware last year but struck out. Looks like I was in the wrong department . . .
SeaJay
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And I, too, used 1/4" SS "tapered head" screws. They're flat on top and tapered underneath, and so not only do they sit flush on the "tank" side of the wing, but they are actually recessed a little. It looks like a nice, solid design.
Since I use the Halcyon "stealth pack" on the other side (and have a seperate rig for diving doubles) I went ahead and went with plain ol' nuts and washers on the inside side of the plate, with a lock washer stuck in there for good measure. Then I used a Dremel tool to cut off the remaining ends of the screws so that I would have the most "flush" result, even on the inside of the plate. I felt that having less sticking out would be the kindest to my lift bag, which I do put in my "stealth pack."
Interestingly, I Dremeled off probably 1/4" of length from the screws... So I could have accomplished the same thing by purchasing 3/4" long, 1/4" stainless tapered-head screws. Unfortunately, I only found them in the 1" long variety, and so I completed the job with that Dremel.
Since I use the Halcyon "stealth pack" on the other side (and have a seperate rig for diving doubles) I went ahead and went with plain ol' nuts and washers on the inside side of the plate, with a lock washer stuck in there for good measure. Then I used a Dremel tool to cut off the remaining ends of the screws so that I would have the most "flush" result, even on the inside of the plate. I felt that having less sticking out would be the kindest to my lift bag, which I do put in my "stealth pack."
Interestingly, I Dremeled off probably 1/4" of length from the screws... So I could have accomplished the same thing by purchasing 3/4" long, 1/4" stainless tapered-head screws. Unfortunately, I only found them in the 1" long variety, and so I completed the job with that Dremel.
I just got a new Fred-T plate Im putting to together with my Pioneer 36 wings and looking at the same thing. What is the best head angle is for the flathead machine screws? I have access to the more standard 82-degree as well as 100 degree and was wondering, which is a better fit. I am also thinking about using flat washers and a nylon insert locknuts. These work well on land, but Im not sure how they will do in salt water. Theyre only good for one use but they stay on well.
Im not sure since Ive never tried it but it seems like theres no advantage to having it flopping around. I would bolt the wing to the backplate if for no other reason than it makes it easier to thread the cam bands.
Mike
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