Gas Matching with LP 108's

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I adhere to the "Dive 104/108/112/130's like everyone else rule" :p

Anyone know the technical answer to why you hit a law of diminishing returns when filling tanks in higher pressures? I know there was an article a while back in one of the cave magazines (I think Larry Green wrote it) that explained why filling beyond 3600psi didn't gain much gas. I had just been told that gas matching a tank with 3900psi, and one with 2400psi will result in a somewhat inaccurate calculation, because the 2400psi tank will have more gas per psi? I think the difference is small enough that it's not a huge deal (I might be wrong), but I've been curious to hear a clear explanation for a while.

I don't know the details, but my understanding is that the ideal gas law(PV=nRT) that is the basis for our calculations begins to break down above certain temps and pressures. Like a lot of other scientific "laws", it's a good approximation within certain ranges, but beyond that, it starts to fail. It's like Newton's Laws being only an approximation, but very accurate at speeds small compared to the speed of light.
 
Holy Smokes Shagman...if I am turning at 3200 psi, with the flow like it is at JB, we will be doing Intro. dives and not getting any further in the cave then we are at cavern level!!! Get bigger tanks...hurry. Yes I know, and I will work on breathing better! But heck, I can burn 300 psi just running the reel to the gold line at JB.

The problem with that is I have to carry those big basterds on my back!!!

No big tanks until I can sidemount, and my instructor wants me to do intro in backmount :lotsalove:

Maybe I can at least rent a set of LP95's and see if the extra weight is that killer or not.:ermm:
 
Forget 95s, Try 85s. Smaller and you'll still have more cf when pumped to 3600 than you do in those HP100s!
 
I will rent a set of LP95's from Edd the next weekend I'm down there, and see if the extra weight is gonna be a problem.

Thanks again to loquat149 for the spreadsheet, I'm gonna print/laminate that and keep it on me for gas matching.
 
Forget 95s, Try 85s. Smaller and you'll still have more cf when pumped to 3600 than you do in those HP100s!


Your current gear configuration may influence your decision on the size of doubles you get (try). Yes, LP85s would be your best bet to start with. I used to dive them wet with a 40# wing and SS backplate. Now I dive LP95s dry with a 55# wing and AL backplate. Some claim the 95's will make you head heavy, since they're shorter, but I've never noticed that, though I do wear jet fins.

Dave
 
I need a no flow cave that is all downhill to get some penetration

Come to Mexico . . . :)
 
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