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Garmin Descent MK2

Discussion in 'Computers, Gauges, Watches and Analyzers' started by Peter Bomberg, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    So, would I rather have a Mk2 with AI, or a Teric2 with GPS?
    Gotta go with the Teric2 if the Mk2 uses non-PPS AI.
    Otherwise, gotta go with the Teric2 if Garmin Customer service supports the Mk2.
    I feel like the Mk2 would be my choice only if I didn't already have multiple PPS transmitters and two computers that receive them, and only if I didn't care about customer service, and only if I really wanted/needed the sports-watch features.
    That's a lot of only ifs.
     
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  2. ATJ

    ATJ Barracuda

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    So they are... interesting...

    Speculation on...

    Maybe Garmin's transmitter is still PPS internally but Garmin make the outside.

    So the picture may represent a twinset with a transmitter to each tank with BOTH set up to send to the Garmin Mk2/MkII - which makes the most sense.

    Of course, they might have the Garmin transmitter going to the Mk2/MkII and the other one going to another computer. This makes sense if the Garmin transmitter is not PPS compatible.
     
  3. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I bet it was a Shearwater to one transmitter on one side and Garmin setup on the other. Diving to compare as apples to apples as possible. To make sure, in the real world, that the one setup works just as well as the other. No or similar dropouts and showing the same tank pressure at all times.

    Don’t know why it was doubles, though. Could have put both transmitters on one 1st stage and dived a single tank to do the same thing. Probably just what their test diver had/dives.
     
  4. ATJ

    ATJ Barracuda

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    But how much better doing an apples to apples comparison would be both transmitters going to a Garmin and a Shearwater?

    See the problem with having one transmitter to computer and the other to another computer is you aren't really comparing anything from the AI perspective and really doesn't give much more information that two separate dives with singles.

    Edit: Oh wait... is there a manifold? I didn't think there was and the valves don't look aligned but now I think there might be a manifold. If there is at it is open, then yes, it would be perfect for an apples to apples comparison.
     
  5. ATJ

    ATJ Barracuda

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    Or a more appropriate apples to apples comparison if the Garmin transmitter is not PPS compatible would be to put both transmitters on the one first stage and dive with the Garmin and the Shearwater.
     
  6. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I don't understand your post. I assume the Garmin transmitter is not PPS and the Garmin system must be tested separately from the comparator, say Shearwater. This could just as easily been done on one 1st stage and a single as the way it was done in the photo

    Edit, sorry, was typing during your follow up post
     
  7. ATJ

    ATJ Barracuda

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    Garmin has been completely offline for the last 15 hours or so. It has been reported as a ransomware attack.

    It shows how dumb a completely online ecosystem is.

    Fortunately, I can still pull my dive data from yesterdays dive directly from the watch and put into Subsurface but getting other data off the watch (Steps, Sleep, etc.) is not possible.

    I guess this will delay any announcement of the Mk2/MkII even further.
     
  8. dirkhh

    dirkhh Barracuda

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    Ugh - I feel so sorry for the folks at Garmin.
    They have been really good to work with and very supportive of Subsurface. I was disappointed that they were adamant that Subsurface shouldn't try to connect with the Descent via BLE - but given how supportive they were in other ways, I didn't want to ignore their very strong request.
    So unfortunately you need a PC/Laptop to get data off of a Descent MkI, but at least that always works, regardless of there being hiccups elsewhere in the internet.
     
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  9. dmaziuk

    dmaziuk Regular of the Pub

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    No, it's only dumb to build an on-line ecosystem if you don't understand what you're doing. For all we know Garmin does, and their due diligence said that loss of revenue from X hours downtime is cheaper than the alternatives.
     
  10. ATJ

    ATJ Barracuda

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    At least divers and runners have options:
    Garmin services and production go down after ransomware attack | ZDNet
     

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