Future aka New Normal

[DownUnderwater Dan]

No Asean countries will allow their citizens to freely travel to indonesia and possibly come back infected or allow indonesian tourist to freely travel in.

Not for long my friend

 

[DownUnderwater Dan]

Really? Compared to other Asean and Asian countries? Indonesia Coronavirus: 50,187 Cases and 2,620 Deaths - Worldometer

Yes really. It's one thing to go by the media's opinion polls on such topics, but in reality planes flying to Bali will be full again once things start to swing into action. The demand will outweigh those who are afraid of the covid hantu

Just look at the willingness of people to attend mass gatherings recently around the world during a "pandemic"...so of course people are willing to travel

 

[acidrush]

Not for long my friend

I can't speak for other asean countries but Singapore spent almost S$100 Billion dollars of its reserves and locked down for 2 months for covid at great cost to the local economy. Theres no way we will open up to freely allow tourist from countries where the virus is still raging. We may open up to certain countries for essential travel but tourism is not considered essential travel.

 

[acidrush]

Yes really. It's one thing to go by the media's opinion polls on such topics, but in reality planes flying to Bali will be full again once things start to swing into action. The demand will outweigh those who are afraid of the covid hantu

Just look at the willingness of people to attend mass gatherings recently around the world during a "pandemic"...so of course people are willing to travel

But will these countries allow their own citizens to travel? It brings no benefits to these countries but only risks when they return. For example Australia has banned its citizens from travelling.

 

[DownUnderwater Dan]

I can't speak for other asean countries but Singapore spent almost S$100 Billion dollars of its reserves and locked down for 2 months for covid at great cost to the local economy. Theres no way we will open up to freely allow tourist from countries where the virus is still raging. We may open up to certain countries for essential travel but tourism is not considered essential travel.

The country’s (Singapore) Trade and Industry Minister, Chan Chun Sing, says he is speaking with “as many countries as possible” to negotiate a travel agreement.

 

[DownUnderwater Dan]

But will these countries allow their own citizens to travel? It brings no benefits to these countries but only risks when they return. For example Australia has banned its citizens from travelling.

But will these countries allow their own citizens to travel?

Soon enough

For example Australia has banned its citizens from travelling.

Not for long. Only thing that could stop progress is that Australia has needlessly joined the US in a trade war against China

 

[Indah]

Yes, as 50 cases per week per 100.000 people is the current threshold where most countires in Europe will re-implement certain lockdown meassures, albeit we do that now on a more local level.But that is only a rough guideline, I'm sure that if Indonesia has 100k+ cases a week we will keep the travel advisory

Indonesia has around 8.000 new cases per week. This means 3 per 100.000. The Netherlands has in total 290 infected people per 100.000.

 

[DownUnderwater Dan]

It brings no benefits to these countries

Everyone benefits, the travellers, the hospitality & tourist industries and the 100's of thousands unemployed workers in the flight & aviation business

 

[DownUnderwater Dan]

Indonesia has around 8.000 new cases per week. This means 3 per 100.000. The Netherlands has in total 290 infected people per 100.000.

@Indah does that mean Indonesia would meet the EU criteria?

 

[acidrush]

The country’s (Singapore) Trade and Industry Minister, Chan Chun Sing, says he is speaking with “as many countries as possible” to negotiate a travel agreement.

Mate, I'm from singapore. What he is refering to is for essential travel like businessmen. Not tourism.

"Speaking at a virtual press conference on Saturday, Mr Chan said that there were several considerations that go into deciding which countries to enter into such agreements with.
"Reciprocal green lane agreements means there must be mutual assurance of each other's test protocol and standards," he said."

Just curious when you say "soon enough" what does that mean? 3 months, 6 months or 1 year?