Ex-Halcyon employee might go to jail

[Xanthro]

A major fault in American Judisprudence is the fact that often it is better to plead quilty when one is innocent than face trial. Whether this has anything to do with this particular case I do not know.

However, let's assume that the defendent faces 35 years in jail if found quilty in Court, but if the defendent enters a quilty plea to the same charge, the sentence is 3 years probation. Offers like this occur all the time, and one would have to be insane to not take the plea, guilty or innocent. The cost/risk is just too great.

 

[headhunter]

Folks,

I know that this topic is of great interest to many people and just want to remind everyone to keep it civil, which you all have done up to this point.

This is not a place to bash either Halcyon or Salvo and certainly not a place to launch a personal attack on either Jarrod or Barry.

I'm not saying that anyone has done this and simply wanted to remind everyone to keep it that way.

Thank you.

Christian
ScubaBoard Advisor

 

[robbcayman]

Wow, this should be in a tabloid or something. I've thought about buying some gear from Halcyon but I'm going to wait and see what happens with this whole thing before I make any moves. It makes me wonder could Halcyon be in financial trouble?? Hmm...

 

[H2Andy]

i think what this means is that Jerrod and Barry had a falling out, had disagreements,
somehow the law got involved, and now the bad blood continues

personally, i buy my gear based on quality and price, not on who said
what about whom where

i guess that's another way of saying i could care less about any of this crap

 

[Meng_Tze]

i think what this means is that Jerrod and Barry had a falling out, had disagreements,
somehow the law got involved, and now the bad blood continues

personally, i buy my gear based on quality and price, not on who said
what about whom where

i guess that's another way of saying i could care less about any of this crap

There you go Andy!!!

Exactly my sentiments. I dont care 'who dun what to whom and said what'...... who gives a flyin' F....( I read some posts below of the sentiments like ' I will think twice in dealing with Barry, this will have consequences' etc, etc.... Only do business with 'honest people'?).

In business there are no good guys or bad guys, there are only business men......Some things come to light, many dont..... trust me on that.

Bottom line guys and Gals: If the product is of good quality, and we can find it cheap (or are in agreement with the price we are asked to pay for it) we will buy from anyone.

 

[Derek S]

Bottom line guys and Gals: If the product is of good quality, and we can find it cheap (or are in agreement with the price we are asked to pay for it) we will buy from anyone.

Which is fine and good, but who will service a light if the manufacturer ends up incarcerated? Where has the good deal gone then? In the pooper, I'd guess.

 

[robbcayman]

i think what this means is that Jerrod and Barry had a falling out, had disagreements,
somehow the law got involved, and now the bad blood continues

personally, i buy my gear based on quality and price, not on who said
what about whom where

i guess that's another way of saying i could care less about any of this crap

Not so fast, if either business is in financial or legal trouble they may go under. What does all this mean to me I'm just a simple consumer?? Here's my reasoning, if you have an order pending you could easily get screwed and never get your money or product due to a Bankruptcy or the person going to prison. I work for a bunch of lawyers so I know how small claims court goes in other words (good luck).

Not only all of that, but once the company goes down they can't back your product. If down the road your product has problems the warranty doesn't do much good if the company doesn't exist.

I'm not saying I won't buy from either of them I'm just going to wait and see how this thing plays out.

 

[CIBDiving]

and wasn't that supposed to be about a job with EE?

Don't know, Scott is of a nature that if you so much as disagree with him then you are his sworn enemy and hate everything about him. He blames me for him loseing his job at hoodsportndive before all the above discussion happened. I have no idea what he's talking about, I know I didn't do anuthing. I was told it was over his choice of people to invite to a 'diving fair' and the abuse of privleges on the job.

 

[lamont]

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In my experience this king of thing is usually about people with type-A personalities not knowing when it's time to go drink beer together and solve their problems instead of letting them spin themselves into new life-forms.

ROTFL

 

[lamont]

Barry Miller was arrested by the High Springs Police Department, and the case was prosecuted by the State of Florida's district attorney. Once Halcyon reported the theft, the case was out of their hands.

Since you're posting on this thread true, I'd like to publically plead with you and anyone associated with Halcyon to excersize restraint after the case is over. Taking the high road and not airing the dirty laundry and not making public comments about Barry having a criminal record would probably be the most beneficial course of action both for your public image, the dive industry and DIR/WKPP/yadda yadda. Same goes for Barry if he's reading.

If, however, Halcyon and Barry decided to go nuclear, I will be well stocked with supplies of popcorn and beer...