Ex-Halcyon employee might go to jail

[Diver0001]

because big money is involved.

In the business world 100k is not big money.

In my experience this king of thing is usually about people with type-A personalities not knowing when it's time to go drink beer together and solve their problems instead of letting them spin themselves into new life-forms.

R..

 

[Spoon]

its interesting where this thing ends up with. either or barry has a great product

 

[true]

In the business world 100k is not big money.

In my experience this king of thing is usually about people with type-A personalities not knowing when it's time to go drink beer together and solve their problems instead of letting them spin themselves into new life-forms.

R..

Barry Miller was arrested by the High Springs Police Department, and the case was prosecuted by the State of Florida's district attorney. Once Halcyon reported the theft, the case was out of their hands.

 

[Diver0001]

These things are seldom what they appear to be. We'll have to wait and see.... I'm curious what comes out about this once the case is closed.

R..

 

[Mr.X]

These things are seldom what they appear to be. We'll have to wait and see.... I'm curious what comes out about this once the case is closed.

R..

Sage advice. I am inclined to believe that there is far more to this story than Barry pleading to just conclude this episode. Once Barry has a chance to speak in full we’ll get a fuller picture of the dealings that go on behind Halcyon/GUE/WKPP/Extreme-Exposure and its employees. What is particularly amazing to me is the degree to which a "collaborative” world-class expedition organization goes to vilify its members who have chosen to exercise their free mind and choice. There are two faces that this organization presents to the public.

Control and stealth are played out daily in large corporations and government. This dominating mentality really shouldn’t occur in a small company where employees design and fabricate innovative product and work side-by-side with you every day. My company dropped out of a project with GUE/ WKPP years ago because we felt we would be doing the bulk of the hard work while the other pulled strings and reaped reward.

 

[SDAnderson]

Not that there aren't a lot of divers with an interest in the latest in what's been going on.

I couldn't help but notice that you've posted an internal memo on at least two boards that you aren't very active on, which might indicate "overinvolvement" in the situation. I'd like to ask if your interest in the case is anything other than prurient?

In general, this seems an increasingly relevant question: does it seem like there are an unusual number of firestorms involving people that have crossed Jarrod? Saints or sinners, Miller, Koplin and Georgitsis might collectively indicate that entering into a business relationship with Jablonski, et al, can be bad for your karma.

In any event, I'm still willing to buy gear from both companies.

 

[Jason B]

Barry Miller was arrested by the High Springs Police Department, and the case was prosecuted by the State of Florida's district attorney. Once Halcyon reported the theft, the case was out of their hands.

LOL!
Good to see you over here smearing the competitions name!
To bad your products can't do it for you (note to self, sell 10w Halcyon with POS charger and get an 18w Salvo).

 

[Jasonmh]

These things are seldom what they appear to be. We'll have to wait and see.... I'm curious what comes out about this once the case is closed.

R..

Too True. It is one thing to leave a company and open a competing business, nothing wrong with that (except for maybe patent infringement, but i'm not a lawyer so I would have no idea about that) and it is another thing to steal over $100,000 in raw material. If it is the former, then I would do business with Barry, if it is the later I would not. I find it hard to believe that anyone would plead guilty to felony theft if they didn't do it. It will be very interesting to see how it turns out.

 

[Charlie99]

Most things in real life aren't black and white. My GUESS is that it is something more complicated --- like Barry being owed for work and he unilaterally took payment by stealing raw material.

Even once the case is settled there is a good chance the details won't ever come to light.

 

[Diver0001]

Maybe.... but until we hear both sides of this I'm not passing judgement nor am I willing to speculate. There are just too many possible scenarios.

The truth (so as it is) will eventually be made public. Patience.

R..

edit: P.S. do you think that pleading guilty and *being* guilty are the same thing? I don't know much about American law but it seems to me that pleading anything in a court of law has as much to do with avoiding the consequences than it does to do with questions of right and wrong. Maybe (one possible scenario), he pleaded guilty because the consequences of this dragging on were somehow worse in his mind than the consequences offered in the plea bargain....

Just a thought.