EFR and Rescue Diver

[kevin.d.lever]

Please can anyone advise if a Philippine Red Cross CPR certificate negates the need to take the EFR course, and by default allows me then to do the rescue diver course? Thank you.

 

[Dive-aholic]

The best person to ask is the instructor who you will be taking the class from. That's the person that will decide whether it is acceptable to meet the prerequisites.

American Red Cross CPR and First Aid are sufficient, but I'm not familiar with the Philippine Red Cross standards.

 

[kevin.d.lever]

Thanks very much Dive-aholic.

 

[Instructor_Tom]

Don't know about your location but i had to take the EFR course after taking a Red Cross CPR course. PADI would only accept the EFR course for the requirements needed in DiveMaster.


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[kevin.d.lever]

Thanks Tom, interesting point. Fairly typical of PADI though, a CPR and first aid course is a fraction of the price of the EFR course............but hey, the old money making machine rolls on!

 

[WheelsUSN]

Don't know about your location but i had to take the EFR course after taking a Red Cross CPR course. PADI would only accept the EFR course for the requirements needed in DiveMaster.


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That was a decision made by the dive shop, not PADI. PADI accepted my Red Cross courses when I did my instructor course and accepted my American Heart Association CPR and military first aid training for Rescue Diver and DM.

 

[PsyWulf]

They tend to accept it if your first aid levels included Primary and Secondary care,if it was a basic bandage-and-phone-ems course then no

 

[WB2GLP]

Your instructor was able to accept other agency certifications based on the following which I have copy/pasted from the PADI Instructor Manual.

You may accept divers with certifications through other training organizations into a PADI course using this general guideline, and after conducting a knowledge and skill preassessment.

Qualifying Certification Description:
6. EFR Primary Care — proof of current CPR training.
7. EFR Secondary Care — proof of current first aid training.

 

[TMHeimer]

PADI and our shop accepted St. John Ambulance First Aid/CPR in lieu of EFR. When PADI says "you MAY accept", etc. the key word may be may. Best thing to do is check with both PADI and the shop you are dealing with. Probably somewhat along the lines of DM course in that "These are the requirements to be certified as a DM, but to work at our shop you must also .......".

 

[johnlivesley]

Did my Rescue Diver course in Bali and found Australian St John Senior First Aid Certificate acceptable if CPR -Oxygen delivery and AED included.