Doubles - which tanks??

[MXGratefulDiver]

Ummm 200-240 is not a beginner dive, so of course "beginner" hp100 doubles are a bit suboptimal. Although you can always add a stage. Most of the deco dives "beginning" tech divers stepping into the first set of doubles are, sensibly, shallower than that. Like 110-170 which is where 100s are perfect, as well as on a crummy boat ladder and waddling up the beach.

Nevermind the fact that most people regularly doing 200+ around here have gone CCR.

But of course there certainly are plenty of people doing 2+ shore dives a day on a set of 130s plus a v-weight on there as well. On my boat we call that a "Cove2 rig" as we grunt, swear, and heave to get them back aboard.

You missed the point, Richard ... the only thing I'm disputing is the statement that 130's are for cave diving only.

Not true ... but of course, you know that.

For someone limiting themselves to Tech 1 type dives, HP100's are probably the better choice.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[rjack321]

You missed the point, Richard ... the only thing I'm disputing is the statement that 130's are for cave diving only.

Not true ... but of course, you know that.

For someone limiting themselves to Tech 1 type dives, HP100's are probably the better choice.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Roger doger.

I have a 2 sets of 80s, 1 each of 85s, 95s, 119s and 108s. My hp100s are all singles (4). I like the 85s best.

If I ever have to put nitrox in the 108s I think I'll crumble under the weight. Or break my leg attempting to walk.

 

[ucfdiver]

You missed the point, Richard ... the only thing I'm disputing is the statement that 130's are for cave diving only.

You're disputing something I never said. A beginner was asking for advice, I stated 130's are for cave diving only, and at his level, that holds true. The very end of my post even said bigger dives HP100's wouldn't work.

 

[PfcAJ]

James, people only see what they want to see. Now you stop trying to make people do things they don't want to do!

Gawd, you're such an elitist, forcing your views on people!

 

[Brandon]

This is one of my dive buddy's garage ...

I need to change my underpants now... very nice =)

I just put together my HP100s. I had a pair of LP95s I was considering doubling, but they're almost 20 pounds heavier. Ran the numbers, and HP100 is damn near perfect for Tech1 type dives, which is the highest level I'm likely to attain in the next year or two unless I get a LOT more free time.

Traded the 95s for an Evolve 40 and an AL40 =p

-B

 

[HenrikBP]

This is one of my dive buddy's garage

Gee thanks Bob. Now I have buddy, tank *and* garage envy ...

Henrik
(just kidding really - I'm so very grateful for the many good buddies I have)

 

[Gilldiver]

I don't see them as particularly big dives ... just a bit deep.

I'd probably consider some of the dives you do bigger in terms of planning and preparation ... it boils down to familiarity.

This is one of my dive buddy's garage ... most of those doubles are 130's ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

I wish I had 50 grand to invest in tanks and compressors. Now that I think of it, I wish I had a garage that size and condition period.

Most "Tech" divers will never progress beyond 1 or 2 sets of doubles, the capital costs, time costs, etc. are just too high. Then there is the 3 to 5 year drop out rate.....

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

You're disputing something I never said. A beginner was asking for advice, I stated 130's are for cave diving only, and at his level, that holds true. The very end of my post even said bigger dives HP100's wouldn't work.

Hmmm ... here's what you said ... verbatim ...

104/108/130s for cave diving only.

LP85/HP100's for everything else IMO, until you're doing massive dives.

You also said ...

LP85/HP100s have enough gas for most all tech dives and are only slightly heavier than AL80 doubles.

... which doesn't equate to what you just claimed you said.

Qualifiers work wonders when expressing your opinion. It's like when you said side-mount was for cave diving only ... I know people with way more experience than you in both side mount and caves who would find that statement silly ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I need to change my underpants now... very nice =)

I just put together my HP100s. I had a pair of LP95s I was considering doubling, but they're almost 20 pounds heavier. Ran the numbers, and HP100 is damn near perfect for Tech1 type dives, which is the highest level I'm likely to attain in the next year or two unless I get a LOT more free time.

Traded the 95s for an Evolve 40 and an AL40 =p

-B

Nice setup ... when I had my HP100's I used an Evolve 40 as well. Now that I'm diving the 119's the Torus 49 and Evolve 60 are my wings of choice.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I wish I had 50 grand to invest in tanks and compressors. Now that I think of it, I wish I had a garage that size and condition period.

Most "Tech" divers will never progress beyond 1 or 2 sets of doubles, the capital costs, time costs, etc. are just too high. Then there is the 3 to 5 year drop out rate.....

The majority of the tanks and scooters belong to a group of us who dive together ... two sets of those doubles, four deco bottles and three argon bottles are mine. We keep them there because that's where the fill station is. The owner runs a dive training business that most of us are associated with in one way or another ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)