cmalinowski
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Not sure how I missed post 55. :11doh:MRF:
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Chris
DIY Dry Glove Rings/Gloves for $18
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Thanks,
Chris
Isn't this setup hard on the seals? I know you smooth out the PVC but it looks like its pushed down into the ds arm pretty tight. That's going to stretch the seal or at the very least make it more susceptible to tearing. I'm worried about ruining my seals.
So I guess that means that any dryglove is going to be hard on the seals and if I'm comfortable with my neoprene gloves, I should stick with them because my seals will last much longer. Correct?
Another question: do you take the pvc out when you're not diving? I'd imagine that it would stretch the seal if you left it in there but then again, having to put them in every time might cause more wear depending on how tight the fit is.
Another question: do you take the pvc out when you're not diving? I'd imagine that it would stretch the seal if you left it in there but then again, having to put them in every time might cause more wear depending on how tight the fit is.
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Sure, as long as the wet glove works, I don't think there is no reason you need to get the dry glove. Less failture point and maintenance.
Depending on what kind of wrist seal you have. As you see, the initial post is for the zipseal application. The zipseal gives a lot of freedom in this matter. You can take the PVC ring without causing any stress on the latex. In addition, this DIY application only uses one O-ring so that there is less stress than any other set ups as long as it works
Yes, most divers used to left the ring as you said.
CWMurf
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If successful I intend to leave the rings in. I expect the seals to get stretched a bit over time but that is a trade-off I am willing to make. I dive quite often in 42 degrees F.
When the seals go bad I intend to just replace them myself. Not that they are that expensive to have done, it's a pioneer thing. I may not be the first, the best, the fastest, etc... but at least I gave it my best effort.
When the seals go bad I intend to just replace them myself. Not that they are that expensive to have done, it's a pioneer thing. I may not be the first, the best, the fastest, etc... but at least I gave it my best effort.
francousteau
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In my production of the rings, unlike MRF, I didn't add a SDR extension to the 3" coupler. Instead, I thinned out the back end of the 3" coupler about 3/4" from back end of ring toward the front end (grooved end). The "thinnned out" portion of the coupler inserts into the area where the suit fabric is glued/taped to the latex seal. This leaves only about 1 1/4" of the coupler extending into the latex seal. The seal at that point is the widest point of the seal anyway and while it's stretched, it is minimized. That leaves about 3 1/2" of the narrow end of the latex seal to seal against my wrist. Any stretching at the ring area isn't really mattering then, because of the 3 1/2" latex seal that fits tight against my wrist.
francousteau
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Those pics in my earlier post don't reflect the "thinning" of the ring end. But I'm sure everyone gets the idea.hoosier:Any picture please
The conventional ring designs are using two o-ring each side (suit and glove). But, our DIY is only using one O-ring.... So, let's see how it goes...
I think with MRF's design, you could easily go the "two o-ring each side" route, but with my implementation, you can't. The store bought rings with the suit side o-ring is to just keep the ring in place, I think. With both our designs, a portion of the ring is going inside the material portion of the sleeve and keeping the ring stable.
CWMurf
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When it comes to cold water diving; warm and dry is the ONLY way to go! I can't believe I ever did this with cold wet hands.
If you haven't figured it out yet, the glove/ring system performed flawlessly today. I used a thin liner under a rubber dish glove. I don't know what they call the liner but REI sells it. It has a gold metalic look to it and a pocket on the top of the hand for a heat pack (I did not use the heat pack). It reflects heat back into the hand. I put the liners into the rubber gloves ahead of time. They were very easy to put on and to roll the vac belt up into the ring groove. Two thirty minute dives in 38 degree F water and my hands were still fairly warm and functioning well. I wish my toes had stayed that warm!
As for the thinning of the back end of the ring, congratulations. I ruined a few couplings before I gave up and went back to looking for the sdr fittings. I would have liked to have done it that way as it leaves you a little more space to slide your hand through. My hands just fit through the sdr fitting, but it is nice and stable in the arm of the suit.
If you haven't figured it out yet, the glove/ring system performed flawlessly today. I used a thin liner under a rubber dish glove. I don't know what they call the liner but REI sells it. It has a gold metalic look to it and a pocket on the top of the hand for a heat pack (I did not use the heat pack). It reflects heat back into the hand. I put the liners into the rubber gloves ahead of time. They were very easy to put on and to roll the vac belt up into the ring groove. Two thirty minute dives in 38 degree F water and my hands were still fairly warm and functioning well. I wish my toes had stayed that warm!
As for the thinning of the back end of the ring, congratulations. I ruined a few couplings before I gave up and went back to looking for the sdr fittings. I would have liked to have done it that way as it leaves you a little more space to slide your hand through. My hands just fit through the sdr fitting, but it is nice and stable in the arm of the suit.
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