Dive boat down

[The Chairman]

That had to be traumatic. I'm glad no one was hurt, but I do want to know what popped.

 

[cvchief]

Will we find out?

You are probably right, Ron. Don't hold your breath. Still with their reputation, I would go out on an Albatross boat without worry. Makes me think about wearing a snorkel vest and a carrying my lifeline on ANY boat though....

 

[Christi]

The boat is up!!! Pulling it in - will be several more hours to get it to dry dock and I am certain several days or more to assess the damage.

I am providing this information with permission and on behalf of the owner (she's been a little busy the past few days) AS A COURTESY TO THE COMMUNITY based on information that is available and known as we know more. Despite some insinuations and comments here, there is no cover up, conspiracy, etc. etc. There was no negligence and **** happens with boats, gear everything - things cannot always be prevented regardless of maintenance - and again - we still don't know what the real cause was yet.

The demanding sense of entitlement of some people to know other peoples business never ceases to amaze me.

 

[kelemvor]

Thanks for the update, Christi. I, for one, appreciate the rare situation where we can get reliable information about an incident this quickly.

 

[Mike]

Well I heard from a guy at a gas station who knows a guy that met someone from Cancun who heard it was a great white shark that sank this boat, the same one that bit the guy in two a few weeks ago who was standing in the water at the pool bar at the Iberostar.

 

[Ron Lee]

I am providing this information with permission and on behalf of the owner (she's been a little busy the past few days) AS A COURTESY TO THE COMMUNITY based on information that is available and known as we know more. Despite some insinuations and comments here, there is no cover up, conspiracy, etc. etc. There was no negligence and **** happens with boats, gear everything - things cannot always be prevented regardless of maintenance - and again - we still don't know what the real cause was yet.

The demanding sense of entitlement of some people to know other peoples business never ceases to amaze me.

Who suggested that there was/is a cover-up? Or Negligence? People are free to discuss the sinking. Without specific factual info, plausible causal factors are also open to discussion.

 

[cvchief]

The boat is up!!! Pulling it in - will be several more hours to get it to dry dock and I am certain several days or more to assess the damage.

I am providing this information with permission and on behalf of the owner (she's been a little busy the past few days) AS A COURTESY TO THE COMMUNITY based on information that is available and known as we know more. Despite some insinuations and comments here, there is no cover up, conspiracy, etc. etc. There was no negligence and **** happens with boats, gear everything - things cannot always be prevented regardless of maintenance - and again - we still don't know what the real cause was yet.

The demanding sense of entitlement of some people to know other peoples business never ceases to amaze me.

wow. That's a little harsh. So the reason isn't know except it isn't negligence. That was quick.

And I think it is perfectly reasonable to question why a boat that serves customers went down. It is naive to say its nobody's business.

You do more harm than good saying things like that.

 

[Okie Mike]

Apparently the owner and/or operator are potentially criminally liable if the boat hit the reef. I can see a civil penalty for restoration efforts, but there should need to be intent for it to be a crime (severe negligence would qualify, but not a true accident). Cozumel News May 22, 2014 | The Cozumel Sun NewsThe Cozumel Sun News

 

[gypsyjim]

Will we find out? Did we ever get factual details on the boat that sunk while heading over to Playa del Carmen? Did we ever get real info on the Scuba Mau deep dive? Did we ever get facts on the Utah woman who disappeared on a dive?

It is possible that knowing the truth about some of these events might reveal something that really could help prevent future fatalities/accidents.

Or it may be that adherence to current practices would have prevented the problem.

I am not a boat person so the failure modes mentioned as possibilities do not help me understand why that failure (other than a hull breach) would be a problem. If it is determined that an exhaust or other item failed, then that could just reinforce what should be known that the environment may require more frequent inspection and replacement of parts before failure.

I know that I pre-emptively replace truck water pumps, hoses and belts because of my experience seeing what happens when they fail.

As I recall the first incident you mention was thought to be some form of extreme failure near the stern, and the boat sank to extreme depth, so recovery and study were not possible. I had friends on the boat at that time, and whatever occurred in that accident it happened with extreme speed.

It becomes a lot easier to determine the cause when you can recover the boat.

As for the other accident you mention, divers did a foolishly deep dive on single AL80's and air. It happens all the time, and sometimes it does not work out so well.

Neither incident ever smelled of cover up from anything that I read at the time they happened, and it sure sounds like there will be answers from this incident pretty quickly.

 

[MMM]

The demanding sense of entitlement of some people to know other peoples business never ceases to amaze me.

I'm with Christi on this. I appreciate that people want to know what happens when paying customers are on board. But your rights end where what an owner must legally disclose ends. If there is no legal requirement to disclose, then you are at the mercy of what they choose to disclose. There was an early commitment to keep people apprised of what occurred; the boat is barely out of the water...and yet people are saying things like "will we ever find out?". It's a bit churlish to bite the hand that feeds you.