Disturbing trend in diving?

[B N Coleman]

Pardon me, but I'm a little flabbergasted.
I haven't been diving that long, I only got certified in 1998, but we did learn tables and they hammered them into our heads. Granted it was a local course intended for local diving so they prepped us to be 100% self sufficient divers that could plan and execute a dive on our own with another OW diver without any guidance. Of course tables have been replaced by computers now, but the rest is still the same.
I'm just curious, is this part of OW training now at these locales to not need any personal data where you guys claim this is commonplace? Are they teaching "Just follow the guide"?
Or are these people just blowing off their training and not buying computers because they don't want to waste money on something they don't use anyway?

Hi - at DiveISC (currently not available in the USA), we ensure divers are trained in dive tables, their use, and the importance of staying within their personal limits. We emphasize that divers should never blindly follow a guide or divemaster, as many will push limits to impress or deliver a ‘better’ dive. Understanding depth and NDL limits is critical—because ultimately, every diver is responsible for their safety.

 

[boulderjohn]

Hi - at DiveISC (currently not available in the USA), we ensure divers are trained in dive tables, their use, and the importance of staying within their personal limits. We emphasize that divers should never blindly follow a guide or divemaster, as many will push limits to impress or deliver a ‘better’ dive. Understanding depth and NDL limits is critical—because ultimately, every diver is responsible for their safety.

What tables do you use?

Do you provide any training on using computers as well?

"We emphasize that divers should never blindly follow a guide or divemaster, as many will push limits to impress or deliver a ‘better’ dive."

What are they instructed to do in places like Cozumel where following a DM is required by law?

 

[dmaziuk]

See it on a lot of guided dives. Especially saw it in cozumel, ow divers doing repeated dives to 90 feet and not watching NFL at all.....

I don't watch NFL even when I'm not diving. Is I gone die?