DIR, s-drills, consistency, and AI computers

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kanonfodr

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First I want to apologize for any freakish grammar on my part, posting this via blackberry.

Reading all the hoopla over SPG routing in the Hogarthian forum sparked a question: During an S drill, when it comes time to show the OOG diver your SPG, is it a real procedural no-no to use your wrist mounted computer instead of unclipping the SPG?

It just seems to me that one is just as good as the other, and since my right arm is in their general direction anyways it is quicker to just put my computer in front of them. One way or another they will receive the information about our current gas reserves.

I am still thinking of the consistency aspect, especially in the team sense because not every DIR diver uses a wrist mounted computer featuring AI.

So am I Doing It Wrong?

Peace,
Greg
 
I just looked at the GUE SOPs, and showing your SPG to the OOA diver is no longer in the S-drill. I don't know if the UTD divers still do it or not. AI computers are not something I think about in the context of DIR procedures.
 
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During an S drill, when it comes time to show the OOG diver your SPG, is it a real procedural no-no to use your wrist mounted computer instead of unclipping the SPG?

It just seems to me that one is just as good as the other, and since my right arm is in their general direction anyways it is quicker to just put my computer in front of them. One way or another they will receive the information about our current gas reserves.

I am still thinking of the consistency aspect, especially in the team sense because not every DIR diver uses a wrist mounted computer featuring AI.

So am I Doing It Wrong?

Peace,
Greg

Greg,

This is actually a very interesting question because I've been taught to show the SPG and not to show the SPG by GUE instructors.

I would first say that in any form of team diving, doing things procedurally will help reduce stress. When it comes to an organization like GUE, one has to stay up to date with current procedures for the good of others who may have chosen such an organization because they like continuity and uniformity. If all members of all teams practice and perform skills in a certain way, then everyone is always on the same page. This benefits new divers who may be more stressed during an emergency and equally benefits experienced divers who may be complacent at the time of an emergency and will be snap back into doing things by the numbers.

For that reason, you should use your SPG and not your AI. You will develop the habit of clipping and unclipping the SPG and doing things according to current procedures. You will be building the foundation for your future recreational or technical diving prowess as well as the good habits to be a good team member.

Second, while procedures may help reduce stress, they don't excuse a diver from thinking and adapting even in times of stress. Having an air integrated computer may be a useful training tool to throw a curve at buddies or fellow students so that no one becomes too reliant on rote procedures.

When diving doubles, if you are using an AI computer, you could put the transmitter on the right post. While some may advocate ditching your computer in favor of a digital gauge/bottom timer, if you are going to use it, you should get full value out of it. In the event that you have your left post turned off due to a problem, you'll know how much gas you have being delivered through your right post. This is really a non-issue since you should be swimming home anyway, but if you have it, the tool may as well add some benefit. The other benefit to an AI is that if your SPG is bad prior to a dive and no replacement is available, you won't have to call the dive. The important thing for DIR diving is that you have gauge mode so that the team can remain together on the same ascent/deco schedule. If wearing it on the right side for this reason, you'll have to be aware of how that data may help or hinder your flow-checks.

Finally, when diving in open water, knowledge of remaining pressure will help a team determine whether it is safer to surface immediately or make a return swim underwater. This may be a consideration in areas of heavy boat traffic. In a cave, not showing an SPG is fine because there is only one course of action - exit now!

Whether to show the SPG or not will depend upon the current procedures of the DIR organization you train through and/or the preference of your team.
 
AI is not part of GUE standard gear but I have seen other GUE trained divers use them. I always chuckle a bit when not to be mentioned diver would ram the transmitter against a bulkhead in a wreck. That AI should not be viewed as a primary piece of equipment regardless. It should be brain first, SPG second. Use the AI to check your consumption rate after the dive.

As mentioned, current SOP is to not to show the gauge. Just as you should know how much gas you have at a given time during a dive without checking your gauge you should have a rough idea what your buddy has as well. You can always ask a teammate how much gas he has if you find yourself as the recipient during an air share and for some reason you have no clue as to how much gas your buddy has left.

Have you hooked up with Jo and Matt at Island Divers yet? Both are GUE Tech2/Cave2 trained. Jo teaches TDI tech diving.
 
Warning -- noob, non-dir diver post . . .

I just got an air integrated computer. Even though my buddy knows the computer, he still doesn't quite "get it" (locate and read the air display) when I show my computer.

One glance at an SPG, however, causes immediately and clear understanding, no matter who you are. It seems this would be important in the highly-skilled environment in which you dive.
 
The AI computer is a toy from a DIR outlook, so yeah show the SPG if you have to show how much gas you have.
 
:thumb: Retreating back to lurk mode.
 
There's no real need to show the spg, you simply have enough gas or you don't at that point. Head for the door and don't waste time with things that aren't needed.

In regards to the reason for showing the spg to your buddy to make them feel better, I'll tell ya a story. I was on a cave dive once where our exit got delayed A LOT (due to unforeseeable circumstances). I caught a glimpse of my buddy's spg, at a dangerously low level. If his gas is low....mine is low too. It was a horrible feeling knowing just how little gas you have remaining. The story has a good ending, as we were able to surface unharmed, but we certainly tapped into that extra 'third'!

Kanonfodr, there are a few reasons we don't really use AI computers in DIR diving. We don't use computers to calculate our decompression or MDL requirements (this has been discussed in other threads), and the integrated part will limit you as you move into dive that use stages or decompression cylinders. Divers have reported issues with battery life, syncing the wrist component with the transmitter, and occasional erroneous reporting of the transmitter. All in all, its a very expensive component that doesn't do very much at all. You're better off in the long run selling it and getting some good training, equipment that will grow with you, or just going diving and having some fun.
 
As others noted, AI computers are not DIR. AI computers are not robust, and do not meet the criteria for primary gear selection.

With regards to showing the SPG in the S-Drill, UTD teaches this method to build in automation/muscle memory for deploying and stoying an SPG. In an actual OOA, actual showing of SPG will depend on the situation and the team.
 
I second the person who said that a computer is often difficult for another diver to read. Analog displays like SPGs are much faster to comprehend (this has been studied, and is the reason why cars almost never have digital speedometers). For this reason, even if you ARE using an AI wrist computer, I'd show the gauge.

Do recognize that, since you put this in the DIR forum, AI computers are not recommended by any agency teaching a "DIR" style of diving.
 
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