*cough* um, what happened to Pennsylvania's border on Lake Erie?

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Hey Dave, You finally have the thread in the right place. I did a dive in Lake Erie last year. Touched the bottom at 104ffw, 43°! BRRRR!!!! I used an op outa North East, PA. He was the cheapest and closest to where I was staying. I rented my wetsuit from a shop on 8th Street. Decent pricing. I heard the owner can be quite mean, didn't met her, but the staff was good.
Now I got to find that thread...
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=106460
and my trip report
http://www.scubaboard.com/showpost.php?p=1201178&postcount=35
 
Scuba_Jenny:
Hey Dave, You finally have the thread in the right place. I did a dive in Lake Erie last year. Touched the bottom at 104ffw, 43°! BRRRR!!!! I used an op outa North East, PA. He was the cheapest and closest to where I was staying. I rented my wetsuit from a shop on 8th Street. Decent pricing. I heard the owner can be quite mean, didn't met her, but the staff was good.
Now I got to find that thread...
http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=106460
and my trip report
http://www.scubaboard.com/showpost.php?p=1201178&postcount=35

I had heard there were deep spots in Erie, but couldn't find anyone that had seen more than about 60', so I guess you get dredit for finding the deepest spot in the lake!. Personally, I thought it only hit about 40'.

Ken
 
scubapolly:
Well Dave from the legal side of things, it appears you don't have standing to make this arguement on behalf of Pennsylvania, becasue you are in Florida. You will need to find someone who has standing to argue your point.


Polly

Polly, I didn't know you were a lawyer! If you aren't, you sure make it sound good!:lol:

Ken
 
Mambo Dave:
:lol: What happened to Pennsylvania's border on Lake Erie?

Or, to put it another way - which forum are Western Pennsylvania divers supposed to post in :confused: ? PA got skipped in the names of ths states listed as the wrecking crew. Wha? was the state's name too long ;) ?

:thumb:

MD


First Wisconsin and Minnesota, now Pennsylvania. Who's next? Texas?:11:
 
Notso_Ken:
First Wisconsin and Minnesota, now Pennsylvania. Who's next? Texas?:11:

Nope, our Canadian brothers and sisters eh. Before it get to that point, imho you guys are more then welcome! Please join us, eh!

Jim
 
Notso_Ken:
Polly, I didn't know you were a lawyer! If you aren't, you sure make it sound good!:lol:

Ken


No but I have a degree in Forensic Chemistry for which I had to take a lot of law and law enforcement courses, and for my Marine bios degree I had to take environmental law, so I have had it from all directions.
 
scubapolly:
No but I have a degree in Forensic Chemistry for which I had to take a lot of law and law enforcement courses, and for my Marine bios degree I had to take environmental law, so I have had it from all directions.

For just straight chem, I only had to take 1 law class . . .
 
SwimJim:
Nope, our Canadian brothers and sisters eh. Before it get to that point, imho you guys are more then welcome! Please join us, eh!

Jim

We've already admitted the Canadians, hence the Pink Canuck from our earlier Meet n Greets . . .
 
Notso_Ken:
For just straight chem, I only had to take 1 law class . . .

I had 6 for forensics.
 
Notso_Ken:
First Wisconsin and Minnesota, now Pennsylvania. Who's next? Texas?:11:

Oh, I dunno, Ken, how about we invite Florida, as I really need some legal standing for not only posting here, but for changing the whole darned forum around, :mooner: .

LOL, Jenny, that was a great reminder of what I've been missing - severe thermoclines. And multiple ones at that! I did my final check-out dive in water that was in the low 40's, but 53 on top. When that 1/4-inch farmer-john wetsuit (old school - inches instead of millimeters) adventure was over, I remember what my instructor (Ray Hoy - anyone here know him?) replied when I stated that the cold water on my face had me fighting the reaction of spitting the regulator out: "Yeah, it'll do that."

...

Wish someone would have told me 'bout it, lol.

On the next to last quarry dive I found what a true absolute-zero-vis condition was, what it was like to fight off hyperventilating in zero-vis, 43 degree water while really wondering which way was up, and what it was like to do the very same while constantly breathing a mist of water upon each inhalation thanks to my rental's old mouthpiece.

Ah, northern diving... um... hey - maybe I really don't want to dive up there anyway?

darylm74, I hear ya - I've heard about what lurks in the Ohio river at the locks... but, really, I'd love to do a lot of diving in the Ohio - PCB"s, poisons and three-eyed fish be danged - just to see what's down there. (I was always amused at how hard my hair was after it dried from swimming in the Ohio river) Problem is, of course, it probably never has acceptable visibility for anything other than blind recovery work, and it is very probably one of the most dangerous places to dive in due to the large amount of large industrial items (junk) that are down there, and will snag a diver, but can't be seen. Metal structures, cables and pieces of who-knows-what galore.

In fact, I believe that on a recent body recovery a boat got stranded near a lock (or it was right around that time). Seems it got stuck on some huge cable that, in part, was at the surface. It looked like a newer black-insulated power cable, I’m told, but calls out to all power and phone companies, plus the Army Corp of Engineers, brought up nothing. There is not supposed to be a cable there, let alone one that would come up off of the bottom to any degree. But there it was. They all decided to leave it alone and let it sink back into the murk.

Sure, cables aren’t too exciting, but there’s plenty more down there. And it’s that stuff, plus all the debris and lost items from the ice flows, that I would want to see.

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