Corona virus and impact on the dive industry

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It's not being blown out of the water.

If we do this right, flatten the curve (or as our Canadian head of health wants us to do "plank it"), people like you that think it's not as big as it's being made out to be, will always say that you were right all along. I truly hope that you get to say that.

Don't worry... Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2) will peak again. But at least it will be controllable and most important: manageable.
And with that it'll become a "normal" virus the same way SARS and MERS did.
There's the whole point: at this moment it peaks and it's unmanageable because all countries were unprepared and didn't act quick enough.
 
Let's take the off topic part of this conversation to the Pub before the whole thread gets sent there
 
Do you expect some of the smaller operations to go out of business?

The unfortunate truth is yes, there will be small businesses that are unable to weather the extended gap in revenue. Some countries are now shutting down even their domestic flights.

I don’t think we will see the end of the COVID-19 impacts until well into 2023. I would anticipate a claims sub-industry to spring up around all the consequence management efforts. I think many efforts will be noble while a slice, unfortunately, will be predatory or selfishly opportunistic.
 
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The world is in no doubt about to change completely.

(with a tip-o-the-hat to Firesign Theater...EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG)

LDS Dive shops are not known for having shoe boxes of Hundreds in a safe in back. Deep pockets will survive, but I’m not imagining that could refer to any LDS. Casinos will be back open as soon as...something...who knows what...signals the OK. “Carnival Tent operations” using rental properties which can easily “fold up and disappear”, them too. Some will go successfully into hibernation, but not a functional option for vey many...breaking leases, packing material, storing it, waiting for daylight.

Agile companies who adapt- they are in the fight. Look at UAL just today figuring out that their passenger jets can be converted overnight to haul cargo. Shazam. It will only stave off clinical death, they’re hoping to keep pilots and planes employed until the year that people return.

Watch what Hollywood does with the movies. This is their big moment to kill off theaters. And they will. Pay per View direct cable new releases will be the new universal norm. Watch all smart corporations seize this moment to kill off competitors and streamline.

Hard to follow that rebirth pattern with the already failing LDS Model.


There are going to be a whole lot of FOR RENT signs on retail spaces. Flip side? Here’s your opportunity to buy a turn-key ready LDS at a discount. Or a restaurant, or _____.

The world is changing, faster than most can perceive.

That’s why those frisky Senators dumped their Airline Stocks and bought heavy on Charmin.

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The harm will be much deeper then the surface stuff we see easily, dive shops that don’t get mortgage or rent waivers, waivers from suppliers etc. will likely not survive, fixed expenses will be the killer. The manufactures can shut down or shift production to essential items, if the workers can get to work. Customers with no income can’t buy things they don’t need so the smart will shift into making what they can sell.

When these “stay at home” orders are lifted there may be another spike caused by those that don’t exercise common sense, some will go out and congregate and risk it all again, hopefully the system will be ramped up enough to deal with it.

If you have disposable money it will probably be a good time to buy gear as the struggle for survival will probably spur some great sales, it’s a double edge sword for everyone but shops with inventory to move may survive because of it but it will flatten their income for some time since demand will probably be slow to ramp back up.

Stay calm, stay home it’s a good time to walk the dog, the dog will love it and it will help keep you conditioned for whenever we can dive again.
 
Nobody is making any money right now. If landlords boot businesses for not paying rent who do they think will come in to take over and sign a lease? And what type of business?
Everybody is hunkering down right now. Things are at a stand still.
The best thing that property owners can do right now is just let things ride. I know they have bills too but you can’t get blood out of a turnip.
I suppose the banks could start foreclosures in commercial properties for non payment, but then this circles back to who do they plan to sell it to that has money? Unless a heavy monied investor (mostly foreign money) comes in and swipes up a bunch of foreclosed properties for pennies on the dollar like what happened in 2008-2012.
Then they jack up rents through the sky when the economy gets back on it’s feet like what happened in SF and the Bay Area in general.
This will change a lot of things.
I was just finally beginning to run smooth again after the Great Recession and here we go again!
I’ve been around long enough to pay attention to see what happens after these down turns and all I see is the people with money getting richer from acquisitions and ratcheting up power while the people who work and struggle day to day get taken down another notch and struggle harder.
 
Nobody is making any money right now. If landlords boot businesses for not paying rent who do they think will come in to take over and sign a lease? And what type of business?
Everybody is hunkering down right now. Things are at a stand still.
The best thing that property owners can do right now is just let things ride. I know they have bills too but you can’t get blood out of a turnip.
I suppose the banks could start foreclosures in commercial properties for non payment, but then this circles back to who do they plan to sell it to that has money? Unless a heavy monied investor (mostly foreign money) comes in and swipes up a bunch of foreclosed properties for pennies on the dollar like what happened in 2008-2012.
Then they jack up rents through the sky when the economy gets back on it’s feet like what happened in SF and the Bay Area in general.
This will change a lot of things.
I was just finally beginning to run smooth again after the Great Recession and here we go again!
I’ve been around long enough to pay attention to see what happens after these down turns and all I see is the people with money getting richer from acquisitions and ratcheting up power while the people who work and struggle day to day get taken down another notch and struggle harder.
The big “grab your ankles” circle, you have time to make freedom plates, no one has money to buy them! I’m up for a very heavy SS plate or a thing SS plate, anything to help:cool:
 
The big “grab your ankles” circle, you have time to make freedom plates, no one has money to buy them! I’m up for a very heavy SS plate or a thing SS plate, anything to help:cool:
I have 4 sitting here ready to go that people on the “list” won’t respond to my pings. Either they quit scubaboard, got something else, or quit diving. I have two shaped up and ready to surface sand, and 11 in flat stock. All of them mediums.
The ‘list’ isn’t working out. I may just put them up in classifieds as I make them and it will be first come first serve.
There might be a 10 lb s/s large in your future. “If” I decide to get rid of it you will be the only person that will get it.
 
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