can i buy ccr without course?

[Agro]

I fully understand Yosilogon does not answer anymore. He got a thumb down for a very good question. I can not understand this at all. How can anyone be as aggressive as that?

Did TO ever say he wants to dive a CCR without training? No, he did not. And even if this was his intention it's his own decission. We can discuss this without thumb down, we can discuss this in a serious way.

Back to topic: Of course you can easily buy a new CCR without any training at all. If producer askes for certification just buy it from a certified diver. I am not saying this is a good idea, I am not saying this is a bad idea. This was not TO's question.

 

[broncobowsher]

Think of it as trying to learn to drive a car by reading a book. Technically everything you need to know is in print. Reality is you better have some first person instruction.

 

[Alex Ouroboros]

Going back to the original question which was asked,
No they’re not locked as such, but if you order a rebreather it’s highly unlikely that a complete machine will be sent to a home address, usually the manufacturer will send it to an instructor approved by themselves and chosen by the purchaser if new,
If second hand then really it comes down to the manner of purchase, private sales are generally sold with a disclaimer for you to sign and if through a dive shop usually they only hand it over to your instructor or hold a key part back to give to the instructor so the machine is unusable until you start your course (loop and mouthpiece been common)

As stated previously you don’t want to go near one of these things without training though, they can kill you on dry land and you wouldn’t know anything about it if they’re not set up correctly.

 

[happy-diver]

I know very well various rebreather divers that have little clue on the workings or much else of their units
and when I ask their various instructors, how the **** so and so possibly passed their course, they tell me

"Good instruction!"

and we then laugh and laugh and laugh


Reminds me when at 15 the pilot handed me the controls
Oh yeah, and I could reach the rudder pedals fine, thanks


So to toe the party line even though some of the ideas of the instructors and pilots here, make me flinch


"If, you are smart, you should do a course!"

"If you are smarter then you don't have to!"


So there it is, in order to become a rebreather diver you need good instruction but far more importantly

all you need is money


Did you know, generally speaking, that rebreather diving leads rather more often to divorce than death

Rebreathers can kill you, probably not, and unlike wives ha ah aha ha, they won't wash your underpants

 

[Agro]

Think of it as trying to learn to drive a car by reading a book. Technically everything you need to know is in print. Reality is you better have some first person instruction.

Comparison is wrong. Right comparison is: Am I able to buy a new car without driving licence? Nothing more, nothing less.

Answer: yes you are.

It's not about driving without licence.

 

[Sascha314]

You can buy almost anything without training.I know people that own airplanes and pay a pilot to fly them around. You can buy a motorcycle, parachute, any number of machine tools, big fargin boats, $300 an hour escorts, and not know how to use any of them.

Well at least the escorts will offer guidance - in one way or the other... That would be like discover dive with a rebreather instructor.

 

[rjack321]

Comparison is wrong. Right comparison is: Am I able to buy a new car without driving licence? Nothing more, nothing less.

Answer: yes you are.

It's not about driving without licence.

Sure you can buy it, but you can't drive it home

 

[Michael Greenberg Manfish]

is it true that if you buy a new ccr without course, its locked antil you do, and then ask the store to unlock it?

You can buy a parachute and jump out of a plane without training. It would be safer then what you are thinking. After 62 years of working underwater with scuba, I didnt even think of buying a rebreather and using it without training. Neither should you.

 

[Michael Greenberg Manfish]

True. Not locked but the manufacturer/retailer will not put it in your possession until you start a class with a qualified instructor.

That is to prevent you from doing something really stupid.. like trying it first. I heard from an instructor of quite a few students showing up for first day of training with WET REBREATHERS!!!

 

[Agro]

Sure you can buy it, but you can't drive it home

Right. And there never ever was the question if you can drive it home.