can i buy ccr without course?

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You can buy almost anything without training.I know people that own airplanes and pay a pilot to fly them around. You can buy a motorcycle, parachute, any number of machine tools, big fargin boats, $300 an hour escorts, and not know how to use any of them.
Wait. Let's go back to that cut-rate escort discussion.
 
Orville and Wilbur didn't have youtube OR books.
Orville Wright was the pilot of the plane involved in the first crash of a powered aircraft that resulted in a fatality. His passenger, Lt. Thomas Selfridge was killed when the Wright Flier crashed at Fort Meyer, Virginia.
 
There may be an exception somewhere. But buying new, the manufacturer will ship directly to the instructor. You pick the unit up from your instructor. This isn't something that is just stocked on the shelves of the local dive shop. Typically the rebreathers are made to order. You pick the options you want and it is built to your option list. You don't get to order directly from the manufacturer, the authorized sales agents (instructors) are the ones who place the order. This puts some accountability into your death. Doesn't go back to the manufacturer that they sold something that killed you, it was the instructor who didn't train you correctly.
 
He was a very experience diver by all accounts, but not CCR trained one way or another. He's no longer with us.

Well that really isn't saying anything. He could have been playing with the rig in his shop, put it away for the night, turned off the lights locked the door behind him, stepped into the street and got hit by a truck.
 
Well that really isn't saying anything. He could have been playing with the rig in his shop, put it away for the night, turned off the lights locked the door behind him, stepped into the street and got hit by a truck.

Ok, let's put it bluntly : he died while diving his rig. Clear enough ?
 
is it true that if you buy a new ccr without course, its locked antil you do, and then ask the store to unlock it?
Putting it bluntly, this statement implies you have no experience with a rebreather.

Rebreathers are extremely dangerous and will kill with little or no notice.

The whole dive community and industry knows this which is why you cannot purchase a new rebreather without training. Of course a fool can circumvent this by getting a certified "friend" to buy it for you; what kind of friend would do that???

Get yourself on the basic rebreather course for the unit you're interested in. The instructor will rent/lend you one if you've not bought it from them. There's literally thousands of things that will kill you, from incorrectly assembling the unit, not setting it up right, diving protocol; lack of bailout; wrong bailout; no bailout, not monitoring the PPO2...

All experienced rebreather divers know how bloody dangerous they are and will appreciate the value of the initial training. Then you can go out and dive the thing alone.

Please don't become one of the far too many statistics on here: "inexperienced diver dies on rebreather"
 
Even buying used, you may not get access to the unit until your course. I sold my unit a few months back. Buyer is a totally new CCR diver who would take the course with the instructor who certified me. Unit got delivered to the instructor’s dive shop. That’s the way some instructors handle it with used units.
 
Well, i've started buying a second hand unity thinking "i can handle this without giving my very hard earned money to some mean instructor", then just left the water thinking "it's a matter of hours befor self killing"
The week after the first try I was schedulling my class and 6 years later became instructor on the unity
Dunning Krugger as its best
 

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