best hoseless dive computer

[HowardE]

I also answered the OP's question. I do not find Oceanic computers difficult to use but have been using them since 2001. I do find the NDLs between Oceanic Pelagic DSAT algorithm and Suunto's algorithm to be significantly different. To each their own.

Good diving, Craig

I said MOST, not all

Also, I didn't say the Oceanic was difficult, just that the Suunto was easier without reading the manual. The Oceanic computers are a little more challenging to find the sub-menus, but that's just my opinion. I've used the OC1 for years, and still do. Before that, I had an Atom 2.0, and before that an Atmos. I do like Oceanic computers.... don't get me wrong.

Also, while the algorithms ARE different, at deeper depths, the difference may be as little as a minute. If you look at the chart provided by Oceanic... You'll see their NEW algorithm is pretty much in line with the Suunto

 

[scubadada]

I said MOST, not all

Also, I didn't say the Oceanic was difficult, just that the Suunto was easier without reading the manual. The Oceanic computers are a little more challenging to find the sub-menus, but that's just my opinion. I've used the OC1 for years, and still do. Before that, I had an Atom 2.0, and before that an Atmos. I do like Oceanic computers.... don't get me wrong.

Also, while the algorithms ARE different, at deeper depths, the difference may be as little as a minute. If you look at the chart provided by Oceanic... You'll see their NEW algorithm is pretty much in line with the Suunto

Points well taken. I did go back and edit my post with the illustration of a 14% increase in NDL of a 1st air dive to 60 feet using Pelagic DSAT vs. Suunto. My most common dive is a 60 ft drift in Boynton Beach, I'll take the 14%. Actually I'll take all of my gas time using 36% EAN but nitrox NDLs are not in the Suunto manual for comparison. All these computers are very good, a personal choice.

Best, Craig

 

[mathauck0814]

However... the Shearwater isn't a hoseless computer, which is what the OP was asking about.

Your Shearwater has a hose?

 

[misdmnr]

So far looks like I may be leaning towards the Oceanic. I will have to research the Liquivision Lynx some more. I do like the idea of a tap scroll menu, but when diving the Great Lakes or teaching class I wear gloves (46 degrees of fun at 30feet, ugh) I wonder if the screen will be able to recognize a tap and differentiate what I am attempting to tell it to do. Mr. Liquivision could you shed some light on this for me please? Wish I could dive them all and then decide. Should be like test driving a car when it comes to some of our gear options!

 

[nfarrar]

Look at the Scubapro Galileo SOL. Its expensive and a older design but I think its VERY easy to use. It is hoseless and can support multi tanks /w different blends of O2. It now finally supports Trimix. I also have a cheapy Aladin tec 2g($299 console) as a backup. They use the same algorithm. It can save a day or trip if the SOL fails even though unlikely. Overkill is proven 100% effective. I also like the heart rate monitor. The sol uses both heart rate and rate of breath in its calculation. It has a great compass. When I did under water nav it was almost cheating. On the down side is not a OLED.

The SOL might not be for you but its a solid computer that fits my needs pretty well.

Later Mon,
Nick

 

[buddhasummer]

Or the Luna, cheaper than a Sol but does all the important thing a rec diver needs. I was going to buy one a year or so ago but decided against it once I got to see one in the flesh, very nice computer, easy to read and navigate but man it's big I am kinda small and it looked like an iPad on my arm. I do a lot of night diving so for me OLED is a big bonus. So the Lynx will be my next big present to my self.

 

[HowardE]

Your Shearwater has a hose?

The OP listed ALL AIR INTEGRATED computers.

I am trying to answer the OP's question, not just spew unrelated (off topic) advice

 

[ianr33]

The OP listed ALL AIR INTEGRATED computers.

I am trying to answer the OP's question, not just spew unrelated (off topic) advice

But the title of the post was "Best Hoseless Computer" and "Shearwater" is a good answer to that.

If he is only interested in Air Integrated computers then he should have said so.

 

[HowardE]

He said what he was interested in. Try reading the OP...

Enough of this off topic banter...

I'm unsubscribed.


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[j2s]

I use 4 wireless computers..2 Sunntos and 2 Oceanics...One of the Sunntos is a D9 the other a Vytec DS...Keep in mind the Sunntos have a history of straps that break and most people that use them get the Tibby-Adapters [Sunnto nor AL has ever owned up to the problem]....Sunnto as one of the other divers said has some nice features, but they are very 'finnicky' [you have to do every thing just right] and will 'stop' you out if you don't....The other 2 are an Atom 2.0 and a VT3......Had flooding problems w/the Atom 2.0, but customer service replaced it no problem and haven't had problems since.....The VT3 is a joy to use, user friendly, DSS bungee mount, easy to read etc........I use both Sunntos w/one transmitter and they always read 10-15 psi different between them....I do the same w/the Oceanics, [same xmitter code in both computers] they always read exactly the same psi.......When I add up pro's-vs-cons I prefer using the Oceanics.......