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Another question, we had a big argument about the term "under the influence"

is that like .08 in most states, or is that "legally drunk"

What is the term for when you are not allowed ANY alcohol for whatever reason...usually a DUI or probation? when you cannot even have .02 legally...what's that in legal speak?
 
.08% BAC establishes you as legally intoxicated in most states. However, in some states, like Texas, you could be convicted of DWI even if you were under .08%.

For example, you are pulled over, and refuse blood, breath or urine. The officer detects the odor of an alcoholic beverage. You vomit on your self, have slurred speech, fall down, a bottle of vodka falls out of your pants and you pee on yourself. You never tested over .08, but you were impaired due to ingesting alcohol. Much to your attorney's disappointment, it is all caught on the squad car or jail video tape. You attorney then begins working on a plea bargain.

In Texas, if there is any impairment of mental or physical capacity due to the induction of alcohol or a chemical (airplane glue, cocaine, marijuana, prescription drugs, etc.) you could be arrested and convicted.

Hitting a .08% on blood breath or urine tests just saves a lot of arguing in court.

Of course, you mileage will vary with your state.

Clear as mud?
 
when i was around 9 years old we went to a county fair in england and one of these kids (about 11 years old) was lipping off a police officer so the officer hand cuffed the kid to a chain link fence for about 40 minutes in the middle of summer and walked away, a wpc came around and had to go find the other pc to uncuff the boy. Is that legal?
 
diverrick:
O.k. here's one. Bicycles are vehicles by California vehicle code definition, so if you come up behind a bicycle, and there is a solid line on your side, can you "legally pass" the bycycle, (He's waving at you to pass) even if you don't cross into the oncoming lane? This recently happened to me, and it got me wondering if that was an illegal move on my part I never crossed the solid line, but I did pass in a no passing area of the road. BTW I could see well out in front of the bike for oncoming traffic.

If there is a solid yellow line on your side of the road, you are not allowed to cross it except to turn into a driveway or intersecting roadway. Two sets of unbroken double yellows are not to be crossed at all.

If the lane is wide enough that you don't have to cross over any lines, and the bicycle is far enough to the right to allow this maneuver to be done in safety, it's not considered passing.

And technically, bicycles are NOT vehicles under the CVC (that's an urban myth). However, many of the CVC's sections do apply to bicycles, including DUI (BUI?) and most rules of the road such as stop signs and red lights.

catherine96821:
Another question, we had a big argument about the term "under the influence"

is that like .08 in most states, or is that "legally drunk"

I can only speak for CA, but cowjazz nailed it, .08 simply is the "presumed" limit. I only have to prove you were operating a motor vehicle with a Blood Alcohol Content of at least that much; I don't have to go as far as proving impairment.

cowjazz also is correct that, at least for CA, you CAN be arrested for lower BAC's. In CA, minors can now be booked for as little as .05, and commercial license holders such as truck drivers are presumed DUI at .04. With all others I can arrest for lower BAC's if I can show that they were impaired through driving observations and/or Field Sobriety Tests.

BTW a common misconception within the medical community in CA is that someone who is .08 is automatically considered "drunk in public." Presumed limit laws such as .08 only apply to operating motor vehicles, bicycles, and aircraft, and not to activities such as walking or sitting in your own house. Yet we get calls from ER's all the time telling us to put someone in the drunk tank simply because their tox came back with .08 alcohol, even though the person is still able to stand up on his/her own.

What is the term for when you are not allowed ANY alcohol for whatever reason...usually a DUI or probation? when you cannot even have .02 legally...what's that in legal speak?

When CA introduced laws that allowed a minor's license to be suspended for a mere .01, it was referred to as "Zero Tolerance."

When imposing probation, many judges stipulate that the person's BAC while driving be at 0.0% at all times.

DivingsInMyBlood:
when i was around 9 years old we went to a county fair in england and one of these kids (about 11 years old) was lipping off a police officer so the officer hand cuffed the kid to a chain link fence for about 40 minutes in the middle of summer and walked away, a wpc came around and had to go find the other pc to uncuff the boy. Is that legal?

I can't speak for policing outside of CA, much less outside the US, but I suspect that if it was considered acceptable back then, it probably isn't acceptable now.

I always tell the rookies that when they handcuff someone, they "own" them, almost literally. That officer is now responsible for ensuring that person's safety, and can be held responsible if they don't take reasonable precautions to ensure that.

For that and other reasons, handcuffing persons to fixed objects is generally considered a no-no, and handcuffing someone and walking away is definitely not something you do.
 
TJcop:
Not sure what a PBA sticker is, but I assume you are refering to some type of police association sticker? If that is the acase, no, I'm not more lenient. They should know better.

Slightly OT, but reminds of a taxi journey I made in Indonesia... I'd already spotted the drivers parachutists wings and had a chat with him about his military service. Anyway, we came up to a military road block which flags us down at which point the driver made sure his cap with it's wings was prominently displayed on the dash. Made me laugh at the time, all the more so when it made no difference and he still had to pay his bribe. Can't blame him for trying.
 
TJcop:
I belong to many different forums (not just scuba ones), and I have several of these threads.
It's easy, simple and fun! So...

Go ahead, ask me any police/law enforcement related questions!

My background:
I'm a 31 year old police officer with 9+ years of experience. I also teach part-time (police acadamy, police science, advanced training, etc...). I work in SE Wisconsin, in a department that has about 100 sworn officers. Just finished 2005 with about 37,000 calls for service.
My disclaimer:
I'm not an attorney and this is for fun and informational purposes only. If you are in a situation that may require council, please seek an attorney.

OK, ASK AWAY!!!

Ok, heres one.. Do you all have an assigned job while on duty for that day?
Meaning does someone say "today, your taking radar"?

Going along with that.. If I see a cop taking radar was it his decision to sit at that location or was he told to sit there?
 
Good question.

and how about all those EMPTY patrol cars in the median? I saw about 20 in the south...they were everywhere.
 
Tim Greaves:
Ok, heres one.. Do you all have an assigned job while on duty for that day?
Meaning does someone say "today, your taking radar"?

Going along with that.. If I see a cop taking radar was it his decision to sit at that location or was he told to sit there?
Here's your answer: Yes, no and sometimes. Confused?? :confused:

Normally, there are officers assigned to specific areas. Those officers can do what they want with their time. Others might be assigned as "traffic squads" and they are to run Lidar/Radar etc. Still others might get special assignments based on recent activity in the city. As far as where to side to run Lidar/Radar, most of the time it's up to the officers. Sometimes, we get specific assignments due to complaints or other situations.

Those empty squads really work! People see the squad and slow down...which is exactly what the intention is. Free traffic enforcement (meaning you're not paying an officer to sit there), with the same results!
 
Are you from the Dells????


TJcop:
I belong to many different forums (not just scuba ones), and I have several of these threads.
It's easy, simple and fun! So...

Go ahead, ask me any police/law enforcement related questions!

My background:
I'm a 31 year old police officer with 9+ years of experience. I also teach part-time (police acadamy, police science, advanced training, etc...). I work in SE Wisconsin, in a department that has about 100 sworn officers. Just finished 2005 with about 37,000 calls for service.
My disclaimer:
I'm not an attorney and this is for fun and informational purposes only. If you are in a situation that may require council, please seek an attorney.

OK, ASK AWAY!!!
 
No, I'm not. Plus, the Dells wouldn't be considered SE Wisconsin.

But thanks for reprinting the original post, because some of those number have changed now! Unfortunately, now I'm 33 years old with 11+ years on! Ugh...getting older sucks.
 

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