Article on Death In Ginnie Springs

[tomfcrist]

History can be as recent as 1 second ago storker.

 

[shoredivr]

It's so refreshing to have an alternative dust-up ;-)

 

[Storker]

History can be as recent as 1 second ago storker.

Ah, relativism.

You DO know you just wrecked your previous cop-out, yes?

 

[tomfcrist]

History can be as recent as 1 second ago storker.

Ah, relativism.

You DO know you just wrecked your previous cop-out, yes?

What cop out? And how do you figure?

 

[gianaameri]

Exact procedures were followed in this case. Where this event happened, any time there is a cave diving death, an organization of specially trained divers is called in to recover the body and perform an analysis. The police let them do the work and then accept their report. This organization is called the IUCRR. I posted the link earlier. You apparently were not interested.

So, why was the equipment not seized by Police and the gas not analysed by a Lab.?

 

[Storker]

What cop out? And how do you figure?

Are you deliberately obtuse?

 

[kr2y5]

My understanding (maybe I'm wrong) is that the purpose of a police investigation is to determine who's to blame, not to determine the ultimate root cause of an accident... since the diver didn't test the gas before the dive, and failed to follow protocols, he'd be considered guilty. The question what exactly led to his error in judgment is potentially very interesting in its own right, and it might have offered some good lessons for the rest of us, but as far as I understand, it's not the job of the police to dig this deep once the victim was determined ultimately responsible for his death.

 

[gianaameri]

My understanding (maybe I'm wrong) is that the purpose of a police investigation is to determine who's to blame, not to determine the ultimate root cause of an accident... since the diver didn't test the gas before the dive, and failed to follow protocols, he'd be considered guilty. The question what exactly led to his error in judgment is potentially very interesting in its own right, and it might have offered some good lessons for the rest of us, but as far as I understand, it's not the job of the police to dig this deep once the victim was determined ultimately responsible for his death.

So, somebody is found with a bullet hole in the head and a pistol nearby and it is automatically suicide? [maybe that is how it works in that locality]

The very first basic thing Police should do in a diving accident is seize the evidence and have it properly tested since they, as in this case, know nothing about diving (or maybe they know as much as Carlos did which means believe they knew it all)... but then they do not seem to know much about a diving investigation either...

 

[tomfcrist]

What cop out? And how do you figure?

Are you deliberately obtuse?

Nope.

 

[kr2y5]

So, somebody is found with a bullet hole in the head and a pistol nearby and it is automatically suicide?

It certainly would not be an adequate procedure for determining who's to blame, so no, this does not in any way follow from what I wrote above.