Are you a DIR-like Diver?

Are you a DIR or DIR-like Diver?

  • 100% DIR

    Votes: 4 4.7%
  • working towards 100% DIR

    Votes: 17 19.8%
  • Partially DIR no intent to continue to 100%

    Votes: 20 23.3%
  • Hogarthian

    Votes: 18 20.9%
  • none of the above

    Votes: 27 31.4%

  • Total voters
    86
  • Poll closed .

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Diver0001 once bubbled...


You know what you need to do, Phillip? You need to do the equipment exchange that you do for DM with the shorthose and then with the longhose/primary. For experienced divers the long hose is way, way way way way way way way easier. The equipment exchange exercise will convince you.

For OW students it might be another matter. But with a few minutes in the pool it should be obvious too. WE used to *all* learn buddy breathing. Remember? Anyone can learn to survive 30 seconds or so without the regulator in their mouth. If you've taught even marginally well most of your students will get it on the first go-round. Really.

R..

Well, I bet your right on the equipment exchange. But do we really want to make it easier on DM training...Shoot NO.....Let's bust their butts and make sure their the best DM they can be.
 
CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...


Well, I bet your right on the equipment exchange. But do we really want to make it easier on DM training...Shoot NO.....Let's bust their butts and make sure their the best DM they can be.

This time I agree with Cincy.

Equipment exchange is supposed to be a D/M confidence drill that weeds out anyone married to their 2nd stage mouthpiece or their mask.

Whether your primary hose is 36 inches or 7 feet, it shouldnt matter all that much. You can only get so far away before you need to breathe again.

However you are not likely to be wearing a 7 footer when you teach open water classes nor D/Ms. That in fact is why I went back to my 40 inch deco hose as a primary.

Do you want to know how to really tee-off a scuba store owner? Wear your tech gear to teach an open water class.
 
Karl_in_Calif once bubbled...
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Do you want to know how to really tee-off a scuba store owner? Wear your tech gear to teach an open water class.

I do.

BP, wings and a 7 ft hose on the way, and no bones about it.

Ah, love my shop :)

Ben
 
CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...


Well, I bet your right on the equipment exchange. But do we really want to make it easier on DM training...Shoot NO.....Let's bust their butts and make sure their the best DM they can be.

Agreed. But that happens after the training anyway....... :)

R..
 
You might be surprised to find that there are dive shops that actually teach open water students to use a long hose-bungeed back up regulator set-up. This will most likely become more common as time goes on.

By the way, I personally use the long hose system on all of my dives, whether they be recreational or technical in nature. I can honestly find no logical reason not to do so.

Diving has changed a great deal since I began in 1975, but ironically the early single hose second stages had a necklace built into the mouthpiece or exhaust tee.

The main reason that I use the same reg configuration is that I don't want to deviate from what becomes an instinctive motion to locate and utilize my necklaced back up regulator. It is also a very clean and orderly method that effectively limits the "danglies".

I was fortunate to serve as the Science Editor for Rodale's Scuba Diving Magazine for a couple of years. During that enjoyable tenure, I had the opportunity to discuss this reg configuration with others in the profession. There are a number of others in the industry that also share the prediction about it becoming more and more popular in the future of recreational diving.

Greg Barlow
 
Greg Barlow once bubbled...
You might be surprised to find that there are dive shops that actually teach open water students to use a long hose-bungeed back up regulator set-up. This will most likely become more common as time goes on.
Greg Barlow

uhhhhhhhh.....I do know of some dive shops that teach this...But they are few are far between. I don't see this happening in the next 20 yrs.
 
Diver0001 once bubbled...


You know what you need to do, Phillip? You need to do the equipment exchange that you do for DM with the shorthose and then with the longhose/primary.

Hey, that gives me an idea! We should have all DMC's do the equipment exchange, hovering in a neutral horizontal position!
Obviously one would need to get out of horizontal to take off fins and BC(or BP/wing), but horizontal at other times. There should be a little leeway on maintaining depth, as once the BC is exchanged they will have to adjust the buoyancy to their needs.
:D:D:D

But seriously, once I did some S-drills during DIRF class with my 5ft hose, I realized that I wasn't going back to the normal 32" hose with 36~40" octo I had been using for the past decade.
 
paulwlee once bubbled...


Hey, that gives me an idea! We should have all DMC's do the equipment exchange, hovering in a neutral horizontal position!
Obviously one would need to get out of horizontal to take off fins and BC(or BP/wing), but horizontal at other times. There should be a little leeway on maintaining depth, as once the BC is exchanged they will have to adjust the buoyancy to their needs.
:D:D:D

But seriously, once I did some S-drills during DIRF class with my 5ft hose, I realized that I wasn't going back to the normal 32" hose with 36~40" octo I had been using for the past decade.

CMAS has a neutral buoyancy kit removal/replacement skill. I think you need to do it for instructor. Sounds like fun.

R..
 
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