Are you a DIR-like Diver?

[VTernovski]

It's sad. however, I have also met anough of PADI a%%holes too... its just the proportions are very different. DIR is a relativelly small community, in my opinion in comparison to PADI.

Diver0001 once bubbled...


That's not my experience. With notable exceptions who I do in fact respect despite the negative circles they move in, the small DIR community in Holland overrun by intollerable pricks. Their verbal abuse is not limited to internet forums, they "buzz" other divers with their scooters and laugh about stressing out the strokes they go on and on about how bad the strokes dive even though I think, no I'm sure, I personally know at least a dozen divers who could dive circles around virtually the entire Dutch DIR community, they've even tried arranging boycots of certain stores to force them to stop selling OMS wings. And that's just to name a few. I could go on but in short, they're completely sociopathic and the arrogance is absolutely unbelievable - with a few exceptions. It's not the other way around here. Thankfully they tend to dive at one particular location (which for me has a complexity factor of zero) so you can avoid them to a certain extent.

But I don't blame them. I dislike them and I want nothing to do with them and I'm loathe to even remotely look like them in terms of configuration but I don't blame them. They're only emulating their heros.

R..

 

[Big-t-2538]

VTernovski once bubbled...
ok, I think I have enough of this DIR vs non-DIR BS. So, I am considering flying down to San Diego to take the DIR-F too see for myself.

That would be cool...is there no class closer to you than the one in SD? Who are going to be your instructors? When are ya taking it...

I will say now, it will be a fun-filled weekend...the class is nothing short of entertaining. Even if you have a good handle on everything that is presented, it is professionally delivered, and each instructor I have met has been more than happy to spend loads of one on one time with students.

 

[VTernovski]

Big-T

I thought I saw something on the website in regard to January/February timeframe classes. BUt now I don't see any for 2004 listed at all. I can't remeber who will be teaching, I was hoping it would be MHK since I 've heard nothing but the good things about him. I don't know much about others, but I am sure they are also fine instructors.
How much is the class anyway? Since I am not lagging my tanks with me, will there be a way for me to rent doubles?

I am in New York, and no nothing of DIR-F classes offered in my area. There are probbaly not. THe shop that I know of is Sting Ray divers that have two GUE instructors, but last time I asked they don't actually teach GUE/DIR there.

Big-t-2538 once bubbled...
That would be cool...is there no class closer to you than the one in SD? Who are going to be your instructors? When are ya taking it...

I will say now, it will be a fun-filled weekend...the class is nothing short of entertaining. Even if you have a good handle on everything that is presented, it is professionally delivered, and each instructor I have met has been more than happy to spend loads of one on one time with students.

 

[sasdasdaf]

VTernovski,

I took DIR-F with Andrew Georgitsis, MHK, and Sonya in August 2002 at Dutch Springs, PA. I enjoyed the class so much that I took it again with Bob Sherwood on the St. Lawrence River this past July.

Both options are great, and all the instructors are excellent.

Andrew G and MHK might come here if you arrange a group of people to take the class. Alternatively, if you don't mind a 6 hour drive, go see Bob. The diving on the St. Lawrence is fantastic.

Stingray used to have Tony Thomas (ex-GUE instructor) on staff, but he no longer works there.

There's a group of us here in or around NYC who dive DIR. PM me if you would like more information.

 

[VTernovski]

Excellent sasdasdaf, thank you!
I just was in St. Lawrence (ABUCS in Brockville) a few weeks ago and obsolutelly loved it.

Would definatelly like to meet you guys. I donlt know if I can get anough of people to get interested in it thogh. Unfortunatelly, I can only speak for myself at this point.

sasdasdaf once bubbled...
VTernovski,

I took DIR-F with Andrew Georgitsis, MHK, and Sonya in August 2002 at Dutch Springs, PA. I enjoyed the class so much that I took it again with Bob Sherwood on the St. Lawrence River this past July.

Both options are great, and all the instructors are excellent.

Andrew G and MHK might come here if you arrange a group of people to take the class. Alternatively, if you don't mind a 6 hour drive, go see Bob. The diving on the St. Lawrence is fantastic.

Stingray used to have Tony Thomas (ex-GUE instructor) on staff, but he no longer works there.

There's a group of us here in or around NYC who dive DIR. PM me if you would like more information.

 

[Big-t-2538]

VTernovski once bubbled...
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I thought I saw something on the website in regard to January/February timeframe classes. BUt now I don't see any for 2004 listed at all.

PM MHK and see if he can't help you in some fashion. You can also go to the GUE site and e-mail any of the instructors on there. Almost every one of them is 1 very helpful and 2, very busy, but they will get back to you as soon as they can. Also in the Detroit area are the Scuba Guys who are instructors in the midwest and have been very helpful to me in the class, but they are busy with a Fundy's class this weekend, so they may not get back to you right now.

The cost of the class for me was like 350, but it's worth it.

 

[KentuckyDiver]

Do ya'all think I coulds Take a DIR tipes uf class an pay foe it with cattle?

 

[detroit diver]

Cincy,

Read this and then tell me about your aversion to the long hose:

http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39434

Please tell me. What would have been better:

a. A buddy with a long hose that could give a little distance between divers to 1. communicate and 2. use their gear properly

or

b. your suggestion that taking the reg out of your mouth for a second is a flaw and thus keep the same configuration of short hose and octo.

CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...
OK, first of all it needs to be made aware that I NEVER SAID or made a valid point about strangulation with that 7 footer. It might have been Karl or some Karl-Like figure.

The other thing is...We may hit 50 pages again...

OK...One valid point that I did make that some people just can't swallow is.........The fact that you have two divers without air or a reg in their mouth for a brief moment hopefully...HOPEFULLY just a brief moment when you donate the primary (FACT!!!!). To me this opens up the door to have two paniced divers instead of one. When you donate your octo...The chance of two paniced divers is significantly less than donated your primary.

This is enough to turn me away from donating the primary.

I'm sure you can understand my point. I'm not asking you have to swallow it...But just say you understand it.

No name calling or bashing intended if anyone saw it that way!

 

[CincyBengalsFan]

detroit diver once bubbled...
Cincy,

Read this and then tell me about your aversion to the long hose:

http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39434

Please tell me. What would have been better:

a. A buddy with a long hose that could give a little distance between divers to 1. communicate and 2. use their gear properly

or

b. your suggestion that taking the reg out of your mouth for a second is a flaw and thus keep the same configuration of short hose and octo.

What in sams absolute hell do you want detroit flawless diver? MY GOD. Get over it with me and move on. I have my opinions for very good reason. How many trips to central Fla. have you made. How many rumors of cave deaths have you heard vs. what the report came out to say. Probably very little. So whatever your problem is get the heck over it and move on with your life! I know it's cold up there but damn! No wonder my family wants to get the heck out of MI. Maybe you can help run them out a little faster.

Do you want me to have someone get on this scubaboard and make something up claiming a death due to your configuration now? Please take some lessons from SeaJay on how to write and act in general.

Not to mention when did I say the short hose was the best. I never have you idiot!

My problem stands with dontating the primary and that still stands due to what I know and the rumors I've heard down in central Florida (cave country in case you missed that one or want to argue about it to).

Point: MOVE ON PLEASE..I'm finished with you. Send SeaJay debating to me if you want.

 

[detroit diver]

When you call me an idiot and make it personal, then you can't get rid of me.

Your reasoning is flawed. No more, no less. And you try to take a very minor procedure (reg removal and replace) that EVERY diver learns in OW, and turn it into a flaw. It just doesn't hold water-pun intended.

I did not make up that story, nor do I even know the person that wrote it. It's a little scary that you have to suggest this to diminish my point and boost yours. Send the guy a PM if you're so suspect of my intentions.

And if you're going to rely on rumors to make your point, please do so in advance. Then everyone can ignore the words that follow the rumor.

Until then, I'll keep replying to stuff that I see as wrong or dangerous.

Dive safe.

CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...


What in sams absolute hell do you want detroit flawless diver? MY GOD. Get over it with me and move on. I have my opinions for very good reason. How many trips to central Fla. have you made. How many rumors of cave deaths have you heard vs. what the report came out to say. Probably very little. So whatever your problem is get the heck over it and move on with your life! I know it's cold up there but damn! No wonder my family wants to get the heck out of MI. Maybe you can help run them out a little faster.

Do you want me to have someone get on this scubaboard and make something up claiming a death due to your configuration now? Please take some lessons from SeaJay on how to write and act in general.

Not to mention when did I say the short hose was the best. I never have you idiot!

My problem stands with dontating the primary and that still stands due to what I know and the rumors I've heard down in central Florida (cave country in case you missed that one or want to argue about it to).

Point: MOVE ON PLEASE..I'm finished with you. Send SeaJay debating to me if you want.