Are you a DIR-like Diver?

[CincyBengalsFan]

Okay, sorry about the idiot. I wish you would put me on your ignore list though.

Am I supposed to base my decissions on one accident? Is this how donating your primary came about, by one accident or near accident?

Do you make decissions because of one accident. Should we put red lights at every intersection in the country where there has been one accident?

 

[SeaJay]

detroit diver once bubbled...
When you call me an idiot and make it personal, then you can't get rid of me.

You're not an idiot. We all know that.

Cincy's frustrated. You would be, too, if you were getting all of the arguments against your gear choice. (And we all know that happens often.)

Let it go, man. So what if he chooses another config? It's not your choice or mine... So what?

Your reasoning is flawed. No more, no less. And you try to take a very minor procedure (reg removal and replace) that EVERY diver learns in OW, and turn it into a flaw.

He's expressed that he has his reasons for feeling the way he does. You have your reasons for feeling the way you do. Why does this have to get into a yelling match?

The difference between opinions might be an issue if y'all were diving together, but you're not. There's nothing more you can do than express your opinion, and even disagree... Anything further only serves to foster bad feelings and encourage divers on both sides of the issue at hand to be bitter toward the other.

I love ya, DD... Please don't let this eat at you.

Cincy... I know you're frustrated at the constant nagging from us long-hosers. But DD's definitely not an idiot, and he didn't deserve to receive the brunt of your frustration with us. At the very least, DD's another diver with another set of experiences - just like you are. We'd all be better off if we got along and confidently shared our opinions...

That said, I'm backing away slowly so I don't get beat up here.

 

[CincyBengalsFan]

SeaJay once bubbled...


You're not an idiot. We all know that.

Cincy's frustrated. You would be, too, if you were getting all of the arguments against your gear choice. (And we all know that happens often.)

Let it go, man. So what if he chooses another config? It's not your choice or mine... So what?



He's expressed that he has his reasons for feeling the way he does. You have your reasons for feeling the way you do. Why does this have to get into a yelling match?

The difference between opinions might be an issue if y'all were diving together, but you're not. There's nothing more you can do than express your opinion, and even disagree... Anything further only serves to foster bad feelings and encourage divers on both sides of the issue at hand to be bitter toward the other.

I love ya, DD... Please don't let this eat at you.

Cincy... I know you're frustrated at the constant nagging from us long-hosers. But DD's definitely not an idiot, and he didn't deserve to receive the brunt of your frustration with us. At the very least, DD's another diver with another set of experiences - just like you are. We'd all be better off if we got along and confidently shared our opinions...

That said, I'm backing away slowly so I don't get beat up here.

Well, even with the great mediating..DD did say his way was "flawless". I just find that hard to believe. Because nothing is flawless. Not even little ole me.

 

[SeaJay]

CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...


Well, even with the great mediating..DD did say his way was "flawless". I just find that hard to believe. Because nothing is flawless. Not even little ole me.

I think the biggest flaw in the long hose system is the arguments that it fosters.

 

[CincyBengalsFan]

SeaJay once bubbled...


I think the biggest flaw in the long hose system is the arguments that it fosters.

I'm not saying that isn't true....But again my pickle is with donating the primary not really the long hose. I guess if the long hose was the OCTO. I would be a happy camper with everyone....Wait a minute..Not everyone..There is always someone that disagrees...Kind of like me..

 

[Karl_in_Calif]

SeaJay once bubbled...


I think the biggest flaw in the long hose system is the arguments that it fosters.

The biggest flaw is WHICH long hose to buy?

The 5 ft, the 6 ft, or the 7 ft??

Or buy them ALL???

 

[CincyBengalsFan]

Karl_in_Calif once bubbled...



The biggest flaw is WHICH long hose to buy?

The 5 ft, the 6 ft, or the 7 ft??

Or buy them ALL???

Hey, I've got a 25' hose for a pnuematic drill we use underwater. Talk about fun! Maybe I can rig that up to a reg. for you Karl.

 

[SeaJay]

The 7-footer works great for me as long as I've got someplace to put the loop. It can be tucked into the harness, tucked under a "Harness Pocket," or tucked under a can light.

The 5-footer, IMHO, works great if you can't do any of the three above options.

The 6-footer, IMHO, works better for me (tall) if I can't tuck, and works better for RavenC (short) if she CAN tuck.

But hey, that's just what we've found. Your mileage may vary.

Since she and I both dive bp/wings with harness pockets (soon to be moving to can lights), we've found that a 7-footer for me and a 6-footer for her work well in all situations, and we don't bother to dive anything else. It keeps things simple, and our "muscle memory" sharp.

 

[Karl_in_Calif]

CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...


Hey, I've got a 25' hose for a pnuematic drill we use underwater. Talk about fun! Maybe I can rig that up to a reg. for you Karl.

Like I said, I will stick to using one of my 40 INCH deco tank hoses, as my NDL-open-water-unobscured-overhead primary, and save the 7 footer for when I need to penitrate.

No Pun Intended.

 

[Diver0001]

CincyBengalsFan once bubbled...


I'm not saying that isn't true....But again my pickle is with donating the primary not really the long hose. I guess if the long hose was the OCTO. I would be a happy camper with everyone....Wait a minute..Not everyone..There is always someone that disagrees...Kind of like me..

You know what you need to do, Phillip? You need to do the equipment exchange that you do for DM with the shorthose and then with the longhose/primary. For experienced divers the long hose is way, way way way way way way way easier. The equipment exchange exercise will convince you.

For OW students it might be another matter. But with a few minutes in the pool it should be obvious too. WE used to *all* learn buddy breathing. Remember? Anyone can learn to survive 30 seconds or so without the regulator in their mouth. If you've taught even marginally well most of your students will get it on the first go-round. Really.

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