any frog kickers out there?

[metridium]

Uncle Pug wrote...

I just haven't seen it myself while diving with others.... and I usually check behind to see what is happening.

I am not talking about sculling around slowly or drifting with a current or moving through a confined space.

It seems that when we are using the Frog kick and covering ground... other kicks stir up the bottom at the same pace.

Now I understand. I haven't caught myself stirring up silt when I practice the modified flutter, but I don't use it for serious motoring nor am I likely as low above the surface as you tech guys go.

Still monkeyin' around with the technique toolbox....

 

[ericfine50]

I don't think I have used a flutter kick in several years. Frog all the way. Jets all the way.
Eric

 

[seadog]

the Tusa Cetus, may be cheap, funny looking fins but they are great for frog kicks.

 

[Birdman]

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frog kicker, atomic splits

 

[dmdalton]

Taught my daughter to dive this summer, as far as she knows there is no such thing as a flutter kick.

SP jet fins or turtles if you've got fat feet!:wacko:

Dave D

 

[clementyn]

wow, who woulda thunk there were so many out there

guess i haven't seen too many tech divers where i dive - so wasn't aware it was the 'kick of choice'.

i'll have to try a pair of jet fins - anyone know if you can get them small enough to fit womens size five feet (probably about a mens 3)? wait, seem to remember reading something about small size fins in a previous post - if its a repeat question, sorry.


As a side note:

pdoege once bubbled...
My knee kills me when I use a frog kick. If I do one kick I am in pain for hours. A few minutes of kicking will sideline me for a week or so.

Ouch!

My physical therapist said, "Yeah, well, don't do that".

Sigh.

pdoege - i am a PT "don't do that" is good advice... BUT...

a simple ACL seems like an unlikely culprit for that kind of flare up given the body mechanics of a frog kick. have your PT or surgeon check you for a MCL laxity or medial meniscal injury (or both) as well. a simple ACL would be more likely to give you problems with continuous scisor or flutter (think similar pain to what you get going down stairs) - where as the ACL combined with one of the above would get you with the rotational/medial-lateral stabilty requriements in the frog kick. my other thought, after ruling out the above would be that you may need to work more with your PT on dynamic strengthening/co-contraction single leg stance and even plyometric activities.

just a thought...
lorien

 

[DennisW]

Lorien,

You need to go to a Scuba Pro dealer with the booties you normally wear and try on some fins. They make Medium, Large, and X-Large jets. You cannot buy them at an on line store. But you may find some on e-bay. However, try them on first. I originally used large jets. But had problems with foot cramps. I had trouble finding booties for my wide feet and attributed the problem with tight booties. I wear 4E New Balance Sneakers. I finally found some wide booties and they would not fit in the foot pocket of the large jets. So, I bought X-Large and no more cramps.

 

[Cave Diver]

DennisW once bubbled...
Lorien,

You need to go to a Scuba Pro dealer with the booties you normally wear and try on some fins. They make Medium, Large, and X-Large jets. You cannot buy them at an on line store. But you may find some on e-bay.

I bought my Jet Fins through Leisure Pro. Is that not considered an online store?

 

[Waterborne]

Proof positive that you can buy Jets online. :mean: Lorien, looks like the smallest they have are mediums. You may want to check on this same link for the US Divers Rocket. If I remember right, they make them in one size fits all. That one size happened to be too small for my size 10 feet.


Jet Fins Online

 

[DennisW]

I thought, obviously incorrectly, that SP would not allow their products to be sold on line. In any case, I would still go try them on before spending any money.

Thanks guys for the correction.